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Make District 6 One Conference

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I mentioned in a previous thread: But here's my thought, merge District 5 and 6 into one District or one conference and if it wants to be called the LHAC, then so be it. In that I would allow the non-football Fulton County schools to join up with District 3. I would assume the District 6 AAAAA and AAAAAA teams wouldn't want much to do this for football, but it would make sense to be association members in the mega-conference for some other sports.

Also try and poach Indiana from the WPIAL would be a nice way to top this whole thing off.

The WPIAL plays everything by classification and I don't think the dynamics and geography work here for that to actually happen. I think there are some politics in play(i.e. a lot of A schools don't want to play private schools etc.), but mainly it's all logistics. So keep the private schools in sections with bigger schools, problem solved.

I think in this area we need to get to a point where District 5 and 6 schools are playing similarly sized schools without conferences zig-zagging over different counties.

Make One Conference. 48 football playing schools, Eight 6-team divisions. You play everyone once in your division, then and you get paired with a different division each season and that's your schedule. That way your schedule rotates each season and you get to play different teams, so when playoffs come around there's a sense of familiarity in each bracket.

The divisions can change from year to year, that's why it's nice to be under the banner of one single conference. If a school has decreased enrollment or whatever, they aren't locked into the exact same spot forever.


(I realize a few schools may have gotten the short end of the stick, but it's just an idea)

Region 1
1. Johnstown
2. Westmont
3. Richland
4. Bishop McCort
5. Forest Hills
6. Indiana
Region 2
1. Portage
2. Cambria Heights
3. Northern Cambria
4. Coneamugh Valley
5. Central Cambria
6. United
Region 3
1. Tyrone
2. Central
3. Penn Cambria
4. Bellwood-Antis
5. Bishop Guilfoyle
6. Huntingdon
Region 4
1. Marion Center
2. Homer Center
3. Penns Manor
4. West Shamokin
5. River Valley
6. Purchase Line
Region 5
1. Somerset
2. Windber
3. Bedford
4. Chestnut Ridge
5. Everett
6. Conemaugh Township
Region 6
1. Bellefonte
2. Juniata
3. Philipsburg-Osceola
4. Penns Valley
5. Bald Eagle
6. West Branch
Region 7
1. Berlin
2. Meyersdale
3. North Star
4. Claysburg-Kimmel
5. Northern Bedford
6. Tussey Mountain
Region 8
1. Southern Huntingdon
2. Mount Union
3. Glendale
4. Moshannon Valley
5. Williamsburg
6. Juniata Valley
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Re: Make District 6 One Conference

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The LHAC mega-conference that is being built is a step in the right direction along this line of thinking, but this whole thing should really just go all-in and be one complete organization.
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There would be only 47 football playing schools since Williamsburg no longer has a team. I think this is a great idea. I would switch Berlin and Everett around, that way the smaller Bedford county teams would all be in the same region with the other Somerset schools filling out the region. I know I wouldn't miss the trips to Moshannon Valley and Glendale from Saxton.
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I think this looks great and would be an amazing league. I think each region you have would be very competitively balanced.

I do think a little tweaking could between the regions.

The big question schools would have to answer is if it is better to play in a region where the schools differ in size to you or play in a region that requires a little more travel but is better in terms school size.

The example here is region 5 and region 7 in your example...

Would Tussey Mountain, for instance, want to drive past Everett, Bedford, and CR to play Berlin (about a 70 min bus ride), North Star (about a 90 minute bus ride) or Meyersdale (about a 100 min bus ride)?
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That’s an excellent idea! I proposed this scenario a few weeks ago, myself! With the LHAC becoming a super conference and he possibility that the Mountain League teams will jump as well, the Heritage and the ICC are going to be left out! Playing by classification is the easiest way to level the playing field!
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Crimson's Ghost wrote: February 17th, 2022, 1:24 pm
(I realize a few schools may have gotten the short end of the stick, but it's just an idea)

Region 1
1. Johnstown
2. Westmont
3. Richland
4. Bishop McCort
5. Forest Hills
6. Indiana
Region 2
1. Portage
2. Cambria Heights
3. Northern Cambria
4. Coneamugh Valley
5. Central Cambria
6. United
Region 3
1. Tyrone
2. Central
3. Penn Cambria
4. Bellwood-Antis
5. Bishop Guilfoyle
6. Huntingdon
Region 4
1. Marion Center
2. Homer Center
3. Penns Manor
4. West Shamokin
5. River Valley
6. Purchase Line
Region 5
1. Somerset
2. Windber
3. Bedford
4. Chestnut Ridge
5. Everett
6. Conemaugh Township
Region 6
1. Bellefonte
2. Juniata
3. Philipsburg-Osceola
4. Penns Valley
5. Bald Eagle
6. West Branch
Region 7
1. Berlin
2. Meyersdale
3. North Star
4. Claysburg-Kimmel
5. Northern Bedford
6. Tussey Mountain
Region 8
1. Southern Huntingdon
2. Mount Union
3. Glendale
4. Moshannon Valley
5. Williamsburg
6. Juniata Valley

Something like this was proposed almost 10-15 years ago. It would of been smart then and itd be smart now. I havent lived in PA now for years but this is how the system is in Washington and Idaho, where it works great. Smaller conferences with schools that match size/location which makes it easier to seed teams for playoffs while allowing teams to find non conference/division match ups that may not factor into their playoff potential. Go 5-0 in division, get 1st seed from division. The rest of the games are pride/warm ups for your team.
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Crimson's Ghost wrote:I mentioned in a previous thread: But here's my thought, merge District 5 and 6 into one District or one conference and if it wants to be called the LHAC, then so be it. In that I would allow the non-football Fulton County schools to join up with District 3. I would assume the District 6 AAAAA and AAAAAA teams wouldn't want much to do this for football, but it would make sense to be association members in the mega-conference for some other sports.

Also try and poach Indiana from the WPIAL would be a nice way to top this whole thing off.

The WPIAL plays everything by classification and I don't think the dynamics and geography work here for that to actually happen. I think there are some politics in play(i.e. a lot of A schools don't want to play private schools etc.), but mainly it's all logistics. So keep the private schools in sections with bigger schools, problem solved.

I think in this area we need to get to a point where District 5 and 6 schools are playing similarly sized schools without conferences zig-zagging over different counties.

Make One Conference. 48 football playing schools, Eight 6-team divisions. You play everyone once in your division, then and you get paired with a different division each season and that's your schedule. That way your schedule rotates each season and you get to play different teams, so when playoffs come around there's a sense of familiarity in each bracket.

The divisions can change from year to year, that's why it's nice to be under the banner of one single conference. If a school has decreased enrollment or whatever, they aren't locked into the exact same spot forever.


(I realize a few schools may have gotten the short end of the stick, but it's just an idea)

Region 1
1. Johnstown
2. Westmont
3. Richland
4. Bishop McCort
5. Forest Hills
6. Indiana
Region 2
1. Portage
2. Cambria Heights
3. Northern Cambria
4. Coneamugh Valley
5. Central Cambria
6. United
Region 3
1. Tyrone
2. Central
3. Penn Cambria
4. Bellwood-Antis
5. Bishop Guilfoyle
6. Huntingdon
Region 4
1. Marion Center
2. Homer Center
3. Penns Manor
4. West Shamokin
5. River Valley
6. Purchase Line
Region 5
1. Somerset
2. Windber
3. Bedford
4. Chestnut Ridge
5. Everett
6. Conemaugh Township
Region 6
1. Bellefonte
2. Juniata
3. Philipsburg-Osceola
4. Penns Valley
5. Bald Eagle
6. West Branch
Region 7
1. Berlin
2. Meyersdale
3. North Star
4. Claysburg-Kimmel
5. Northern Bedford
6. Tussey Mountain
Region 8
1. Southern Huntingdon
2. Mount Union
3. Glendale
4. Moshannon Valley
5. Williamsburg
6. Juniata Valley
You must really dislike West Branch. Putting them in a region with Bellefonte, Juniata, Bald Eagle, etc. West Branch isn’t a very big school and haven’t had a lot of success in football recently.

I’m sure they would be thrilled to play that schedule instead of their ICC neighbors Mo. Valley, Glendale, and Curwensville.


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Here is a Google Map showing the regions proposed by Crimson with the switch of Berlin and Everett as suggested by dadw/2sons. I am more of a visual person, so it's helpful to see where the alignments would be.

Crimson's Ghost's All-District VI Conference

I think it would need to be adjusted. Indiana is the outlier in Region 1 by a wide margin. However, the alignments of Regions 7 and 8 are the most glaring, in my opinion.


Conspicuously absent in this proposal is Hollidaysburg. They play an independent schedule now. Would they not want the stability of a local conference?

Likewise, you have Juniata in Region 6. They joined the Mid Penn Conference in 2020. I cannot foresee them leaving that conference. If anything, they would and will in the future likely petition to rejoin District III. I would also not be surprised if Central Mountain joined District IV.

I think it's a neat idea, but I do not believe that it will be put into practice anytime soon. The Heritage and the Inter-County Conference enjoy their little fiefdoms too much. I have a hard time believing that schools and conference officials would willingly give up the autonomy they enjoy now.
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Yea, it's more of a blueprint than what the actual divisions would look like. Admittedly, I don't know the geography of the ICC and Mountain schools as much so I'm sure someone smarter than I could fit these 48ish teams into the right divisions.

I wasn't sure if Hollidaysburg would be cool with playing in a A-AAAA format, but yea I would have to think they'd be interested if they got matched up in the right section.

Just throwing things at the wall and seeing what sticks.
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I have nothing but love for West Branch haha.
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