It's Curt Flood's Fault

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Both Idaho State University and Washington State university were like that
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I just spent an entire day with Maryland Terps basketball team about a month ago. Spent the day with the coaches and players and here is their day (midseason B1G season).

6 am - 8 am - practice

About 4 players stayed an additional hour or two to do some individual work.

The had film about 4-5 pm. Also some players randomly appeared throughout the day to get some work with the training staff.

This was a B1G team that spent the majority of the year in the top 10. Players put about 3-5 hours of work in.

This was a Thursday. They played a road game on Tuesday and had a home game on Saturday.

I had dinner with Mike Locksley in September in the Tuesday evening before the Penn State game. Spoke to him about the schedule of the student athlete today. It was very similar but maybe a little more time during football season for lifting and training sessions due to recovery (remember they have weekend only games though unlike basketball).

I don’t want to call bulls*** on your schedule but it is nowhere near the experience I have seen or have discussed with these coaches. Sure every team has a gym rat that they have to turn the lights out on to get to go home every night but 90-95% of the roster follows schedules like above.
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Also, the NCAA only allows 20 hours of team organized practices per week. Which equates to less than 3 hours per day. So your schedule of practices from 5-8 am and again 4-8 pm means they would be out of practice hours by Tuesday.
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Been 10 days since I started this post. I'll bet 15-20 college basketball players have transferred over that time. Most of these transfers have favored the schools of the power 5 conferences. Of course some teams have been hurt by these moves too. But mainly players have made lateral moves from school to school, or moved UP to better conferences. This will certainly change the landscape for this upcoming season.
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15-20 is probably too low of an estimation to be honest, I bet there were more, or at least more names entering the transfer portal. This isn't a new phenomenon, it's been this way for 4-5 years now. But again it's a two way street, good players at smaller schools are looking to play a higher level of basketball, and guys at the higher level of basketball that aren't playing a ton of minutes are looking for better opportunities at smaller schools, and that has been around for a lot longer.

Pitt's a good example, Ryan Murphy wasn't going to play a lot this upcoming season and he found a landing spot at Tulane. Ithiel Horton had to sit out this past year for Pitt after having a strong season at Delaware as a freshman. He'll likely be Pitt's starting shooting guard next season. There are ebbs and flows to the whole thing. You lose someone and gain someone, and that happens all the time.


But looking back throughout history, even before transfers have picked up in the last 4-5 years, how many great mid-major teams were fueled by a good transfer or two from a power-five team? Probably a good bit of them.
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It's called CAPITALISM fellas!

Unfortunately, not everyone likes it when the market dictates itself. Pro sports inherently screw the lower class employee, which is why when a guy gets a chance to get his payday he takes it. For example, even now MLB is trying to have it both ways, not being the young guys and screwing the guys once they are finally able to sign a real contract. Just look at all of the unsigned first time FAs the last two years. A strike is coming.

No matter what area of life, everybody wants things to go back the way it used to be, when they were KIDS. A time when there were no worries, a time everything looked great because you were uneducated and naive. Nobody wants to go back 10 years ago or an arbitrary number like that, because its not in our DNA. What is in our DNA is our youth because it was a time when we felt the most secure. Its biological, but it doesn't mean things were better. If they were better, better for whom? All of the players who weren't allowed to play, or only pay for the pittance the teams gave the guys with the talent who put in the hard work?

As far as college sports, the players are now finally able to do what the coaches have been able to for a long time. Pick up and move with no repercussions. Its been a long-time coming... The main purpose of college athletics is to MAKE MONEY FOR THE UNIVERSITY. The entire idea of "amateurism" is a fraud perpetuated on student-athletes so that the school can make money off of the kids without any kind of reimbursement. Hell, the kids still don't have guaranteed contracts. Win a national championship for a school and you could be cut the next year and your scholarship forfeited. How many kids only play so they can keep their scholarship? I'd say a ton because if this many "good" players are entering the portal, think of how many who don't really have a shot at being retained would enter the portal if they knew they wouldn't get cut for expressing their desire to go somewhere else.

Times change. Unfortunately, the system doesn't change unless it absolutely has to, and then it still tries to get something in return.
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Note of interest. Greg Schiano and Rutgers just picked up their 8th football transfer this spring. They were from Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio State, BC, Baylor, Minnesota, Central Florida and William and Mary. All were lateral moves except for W&M.
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