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The Standard
The standard is the standard.
Sorry. Have always been a Steelers fan. The standard seems now to fizzle late in the season, but as long as they finish above .500 then I suppose that is good enough. Philly has been playing for championships for the last six seasons. That should be the STANDARD.
Note. How many of Tomlins's assistant coaches have gone on and become head coaches in the NFL?
Sorry. Have always been a Steelers fan. The standard seems now to fizzle late in the season, but as long as they finish above .500 then I suppose that is good enough. Philly has been playing for championships for the last six seasons. That should be the STANDARD.
Note. How many of Tomlins's assistant coaches have gone on and become head coaches in the NFL?
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The reality of the situation is that the Rooneys don't want to spend money anymore than Bob Nutting does. The difference is, the NFL has a hard salary cap that cannot be fudged or exceeded like the MLB one can. So, that keeps the Steelers in the running. They've had very solid GM performance with getting the most out of their salaries every year, for players. The salary cap does not impact coaches. That's where the Steelers are cheap. Part of the reason none of Tomlin's assistants have gone on to coach for other teams and gained promotions within the NFL is because the Steelers don't pay to have the best coaches available to begin with. Tomlin is definitely to blame, there's not doubt. However, a champion racehorse has to start from good stock. The Steelers never seem to spend to bring in the best coordinators or available assistants. They typically promote their coordinators from within and then offer some type of Tomlin word salad about "understanding the Steeler way"...in reality, it's a lot easier to give an internal candidate a small bump in pay and promote them. That would be opposed to going out and hiring a sought after up and coming coaching in the league...there's competition for that coach and that could result in a bidding war. The Steelers don't want that. They stay one step above mediocre and the organization keeps making money...unless Pittsburgh can get lucky and draft another HOF QB in the near future, it will be a long time before any of us see the Steelers as a big factor in the NFL.
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Kinda the same mindset as the Penguins and Pirates. Lets just call it what it is, the 'Burgh Conundrum.
It ain't over until it's over.
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The Steelers have won two Super Bowls in 44 years. That’s one more than the Eagles have won in forever.
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The Steelers have always kept their noses high as the model of consistency. Never choosing the "sky is falling" approach that so many other NFL teams have been criticized for by always shuffling players and coaches if the ultimate results haven't been achieved, which always should be winning championships for professional sports franchises. If you're not winning championships as a professional sports franchise then you are not succeeding. That's the sole purpose of a professional sports franchise...win championships. With the advent of NIL and never ending free agency in the college sports world, college sports really aren't far behind this thought process either. At least for the major TV/money sports.
Here's my question. I have watched the Eagles win a Super Bowl and a send off their QB's that got them there and send off their HC that won it. They brought in new QB's and a new HC and have now had repeat trips to the SB and won another one. I see Andy Reid create a small dynasty in Kansas City after having a very solid run in Philly in which he also won an NFC championship and lost a SB. He then moved on and has had much success elsewhere. As have the Eagles. Has there ever been a coach in the NFL that has toiled and labored on a team for decades, as Tomlin now has in Pittsburgh, and somehow risen to the ultimate summit and won a SB after years of average and mediocre performance? I think Tomlin is a good coach. I also don't think he'll ever win or get to another SB in Pittsburgh. His run in Pittsburgh is over. My question is though, has there ever been a HC on an NFL team who was in that same position as Tomlin and overcome it? After years of subpar or average performance, they finally put something together and won a title? I'm not enough of an NFL historian to know this. I should also state, I'm not talking about a coach being somewhere for a couple or 3 years and then winning a championship and making a SB. I'm looking at Tomlin with the Steelers and he's been there now for almost 2 decades and for almost a decade they've really been not relevant when the regular season ends.
Here's my question. I have watched the Eagles win a Super Bowl and a send off their QB's that got them there and send off their HC that won it. They brought in new QB's and a new HC and have now had repeat trips to the SB and won another one. I see Andy Reid create a small dynasty in Kansas City after having a very solid run in Philly in which he also won an NFC championship and lost a SB. He then moved on and has had much success elsewhere. As have the Eagles. Has there ever been a coach in the NFL that has toiled and labored on a team for decades, as Tomlin now has in Pittsburgh, and somehow risen to the ultimate summit and won a SB after years of average and mediocre performance? I think Tomlin is a good coach. I also don't think he'll ever win or get to another SB in Pittsburgh. His run in Pittsburgh is over. My question is though, has there ever been a HC on an NFL team who was in that same position as Tomlin and overcome it? After years of subpar or average performance, they finally put something together and won a title? I'm not enough of an NFL historian to know this. I should also state, I'm not talking about a coach being somewhere for a couple or 3 years and then winning a championship and making a SB. I'm looking at Tomlin with the Steelers and he's been there now for almost 2 decades and for almost a decade they've really been not relevant when the regular season ends.