Is it time for steelers to get rid of the weed smokers?
Re: Is it time for steelers to get rid of the weed smokers?
I said nothing about right, or wrong. I just voiced a couple opinions (I believe it's addictive, and more prevalent than we know).Manfred wrote:So that makes it right.
Legalizing it won't make it "right".
Abortion is Legal, but that doesn't make murdering your own child "right." Too many people get Legality and Morality mixed up. Legality, especially in today's society, can have nothing to do with right, or wrong....it is indifferent.
Kinda like in the board game Monopoly. When you pass Go, you collect $200. It's just a rule. No right or wrong in it.
Legalizing marijuana use will just be a "rule change", that will then mean there's no penalty for using it. The decision about right, or wrong, will need to be made by each individual,...just like the decisions people make every day, about whether or not it is right or wrong to murder your own defenseless son/daughter.
Re: Is it time for steelers to get rid of the weed smokers?
A hundred years ago Dr.'s used to prescribe cocaine and heroin too.
It ain't over until it's over.
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Re: Is it time for steelers to get rid of the weed smokers?
I read a lot about heroin deaths still haven't read about a marijuana overdose.
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Re: Is it time for steelers to get rid of the weed smokers?
Some people are just too dumb to realize the consequences of their choices (eg. Bryant and Bell). They are grown men and clearly don't understand or care about the rules they are supposed to follow. I highly doubt either one can't physically quit smoking weed...they just don't.
In my younger years I smoked a lot of weed... like multiple times a day. Then when it was time to grow up and get a big boy job I quit 100% one day and have probably smoked twice in the last 10 years. I had no addiction. I had no withdrawal symptoms. I just one day decided it was time to quit and I did. I have no desire to smoke now and really haven't. I don't ever get that feeling that I want or need to... so I'll disagree til the end of time about a chemical addiction. I believe it's more of a lifestyle addiction.
In my younger years I smoked a lot of weed... like multiple times a day. Then when it was time to grow up and get a big boy job I quit 100% one day and have probably smoked twice in the last 10 years. I had no addiction. I had no withdrawal symptoms. I just one day decided it was time to quit and I did. I have no desire to smoke now and really haven't. I don't ever get that feeling that I want or need to... so I'll disagree til the end of time about a chemical addiction. I believe it's more of a lifestyle addiction.
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Re: Is it time for steelers to get rid of the weed smokers?
Its definitely a lifestyle addiction.
Coming from a state that has legal weed sales there are plenty of negatives and positives. The smell is probably the worst thing. Places like seattle and some towns have just turned into a weed smell, its quite disturbing. But the tax money does help quite a bit and people are not going to drug dealers anymore who may try and push worse drugs onto a buyer.
What also hasnt changed are companies not allowing new hires and employees to smoke weed. Drug testing has hit a high and people i know have not gotten jobs because they dont want to change that lifestyle so they fail their test
Coming from a state that has legal weed sales there are plenty of negatives and positives. The smell is probably the worst thing. Places like seattle and some towns have just turned into a weed smell, its quite disturbing. But the tax money does help quite a bit and people are not going to drug dealers anymore who may try and push worse drugs onto a buyer.
What also hasnt changed are companies not allowing new hires and employees to smoke weed. Drug testing has hit a high and people i know have not gotten jobs because they dont want to change that lifestyle so they fail their test
Re: Is it time for steelers to get rid of the weed smokers?
Why do the users have to do it? Is it to 'try to get away' with something that is, for the most part, ILLEGAL? I can understand a cancer patient, living in constant pain, needing relief, but a perfectly healthy person, it's just a selfish indulgence. And that seems to be our whole society in one sentence. BTW, I grew up in the hippie days, Woodstock, Peace, Love, Dope era. Note those two big words "grew up".
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If hypocrisy were illegal, the world would be a better place. PEDs are illegal. On the flipside, painkillers, which do not heal and only mask pain, are legal and required so the hired help can continue to punish their bodies for league profits and our amusement. Meanwhile, marijuana is illegal yet alcohol, which is more prevalent, is legal and available in every part of society. These observations do not advocate anything and just point out the truth.
Hypocrisy - you gotta love it!
Hypocrisy - you gotta love it!
Re: Is it time for steelers to get rid of the weed smokers?
In the effort of full disclosure for my upcoming post, I will give you my marijuana background. I started smoking pot in college and smoked a lot of pot over the next half decade. I was "high" in some college classrooms, "high" at some of my part-time minimum wage jobs, I would smoke for just about any occasion. I loved being able to smoke because it relaxed me and made me much more functional. I have adult ADD and this drug helped me focus on things I was never able to focus on before. I truly think pot helped me. I performed better in school and at work. I found a love for writing and exercise that I never had before. At the end of the day, it was my body and my decision.
Since, I have really drifted away from the desire or want for the drug. I still take an occasional puff or smoke in a social setting but my body lost a desire to smoke like I used to. It doesn't have the same effect on me that it used to. Maybe as I've matured my ADD isn't quite as severe as it once was. I don't really know.
Where do people get the idea that society should even be allowed to set rules on what an individual does to their own body?
Why do major sports organizations feel like they should be able to inject certain drugs into the body to allow them to get on the field but also have a list of "forbidden fruit" that may be much more effective for that individual athlete? Let's inject Vitamin T directly into the liver but how dare someone who is experiencing extreme pain, anxiety issues, or whatever the hell else they want to use a certain drug for enjoy it without the fear of punishment. Heck maybe it's fun, but at the end of the day how is the NFL effected if one of its players enjoys recreational pot use?
People wonder why our country is broke. We have prisons filled due to people using and selling recreational drugs. This sole issue has turned prisons into "Big Business." Think about that, our society has corrections as one of the biggest industries in our economy.
It is sad and I honestly struggle to figure out why anyone really cares.
Since, I have really drifted away from the desire or want for the drug. I still take an occasional puff or smoke in a social setting but my body lost a desire to smoke like I used to. It doesn't have the same effect on me that it used to. Maybe as I've matured my ADD isn't quite as severe as it once was. I don't really know.
Where do people get the idea that society should even be allowed to set rules on what an individual does to their own body?
Why do major sports organizations feel like they should be able to inject certain drugs into the body to allow them to get on the field but also have a list of "forbidden fruit" that may be much more effective for that individual athlete? Let's inject Vitamin T directly into the liver but how dare someone who is experiencing extreme pain, anxiety issues, or whatever the hell else they want to use a certain drug for enjoy it without the fear of punishment. Heck maybe it's fun, but at the end of the day how is the NFL effected if one of its players enjoys recreational pot use?
People wonder why our country is broke. We have prisons filled due to people using and selling recreational drugs. This sole issue has turned prisons into "Big Business." Think about that, our society has corrections as one of the biggest industries in our economy.
It is sad and I honestly struggle to figure out why anyone really cares.
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Re: Is it time for steelers to get rid of the weed smokers?
Well when people are paying you to work for them and you choose to work for companies expectations should not come questioned....
As for stuff to do to your own body well what about others? Coming from a legal state and visiting seattle a few times, you cant go to a bar without it being a weed cloud of smoke! Parts of town during day its do bad you can pick up a second hand high?
Also its an easy gateway drug for individuals. Coming from penns manor i knew around 3 or 4 people who started getting weed and moved right into herion because they were told it was better.
But really these orgs are paying players and extreme amount of money. If they want to not allow a player to use something i feel thats acceptable since that player is accepting a large amount of money to play for them
As for stuff to do to your own body well what about others? Coming from a legal state and visiting seattle a few times, you cant go to a bar without it being a weed cloud of smoke! Parts of town during day its do bad you can pick up a second hand high?
Also its an easy gateway drug for individuals. Coming from penns manor i knew around 3 or 4 people who started getting weed and moved right into herion because they were told it was better.
But really these orgs are paying players and extreme amount of money. If they want to not allow a player to use something i feel thats acceptable since that player is accepting a large amount of money to play for them
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Employers don't own you! The NFL has every right to control what the players do while at the facilities, training camp, games, ect. but where do they have the right to tell you what you can and can't do to your personal body on an evening in the offseason? Especially for a profession that leads nearly all of its athletes towards the suffering of some level of cronic pain. Why should any employer have the right to tell you what you can or cannot do on your own time as long as it isn't effecting your ability to perform while at work or being a detriment to the company you are representing. Driving 100 mph while smoking a blunt through Pittsburgh on the way to catch a corporate charter to a preseason game should be punishable. Smoking a little weed in the basement playing video games should NOT be punishable.
I think second hand smoke laws should be enforced. Business and buildings that allow any type of smoking (cigar, cigarette, pot, vapes) should have to clearly be labeled. That way everyone that enters that building knows what they are exposing themselves to.
The gateway drug argument has been debunked about every which way you can debunk something. Those "3 or 4 people from Penns Manor" that you know we're moving on to other drugs with or without weed being introduced to them. In fact, I would argue that weed prevents a lot of people from abusing alcohol and some other debilitating drugs because it is something that you can use to mellow out and relax without drinking and having a morning hangover or withdraw symptoms. I would also argue that simple doctor visits are more of a gateway drug than pot because doctors make money by writing 'scripts. The drugs they prescribe are far more likely to lead to opiod abuse than pot. You don't see people arguing that people shouldn't see the doctor.
I think second hand smoke laws should be enforced. Business and buildings that allow any type of smoking (cigar, cigarette, pot, vapes) should have to clearly be labeled. That way everyone that enters that building knows what they are exposing themselves to.
The gateway drug argument has been debunked about every which way you can debunk something. Those "3 or 4 people from Penns Manor" that you know we're moving on to other drugs with or without weed being introduced to them. In fact, I would argue that weed prevents a lot of people from abusing alcohol and some other debilitating drugs because it is something that you can use to mellow out and relax without drinking and having a morning hangover or withdraw symptoms. I would also argue that simple doctor visits are more of a gateway drug than pot because doctors make money by writing 'scripts. The drugs they prescribe are far more likely to lead to opiod abuse than pot. You don't see people arguing that people shouldn't see the doctor.