PSU WR D.Williams--The "D" stands for DON'T believ

[deliverance]

Penn State played the best 2 teams in the country, probably.

Wow, I think a lot less of your opinions after reading that statement. Michigan pounded Notre Dame up and down the field. How would Notre Dame be the 2nd best team in the nation. They should've even lost to Michigan State. How are they the 2nd best team in the nation? Now I agree with Ohio State, because they are the best team in the nation, in my opinion.

[Dfense wins games]

i think ND looks like it could be the best and the worst team within a drive...they force teams to go 3 n out...then the next series the team goes straight down the field....on offense they have a tremendous amount of potential...but thats about it...brady quinn looks awesome at points...then like total garbage like his soph year at others

[Dfense wins games]

now about psu and msu....i think msu and psu are about even...sure msu should have beat a team that psu got killed by....but then psu goes out and shows a strong performance against osu...go figure. Some teams just match up differant than others....i think that this game would be real close down to the wire.

[The Ancient Enemy]

What part of "probably" dont you idiots understand? ND, as Dfense said, looks like the best and worst team in the nation from drive to drive. Havent you learned anything from football games in the past? Teams grow immensely after games like ND just played. They probably won't lose again. If I had to pick a winner in that ND and USC game, I'd take ND 5 out of 5 times in 2006. What does history say about Michigan? They fall apart down the stretch. How about Michigan State? They fall apart down the stretch. We've already seen what MSU did in that ND game. Don't the pieces just fall into place? Based on what we have seen transpire in the past, Michigan has great players, starts strong, and ends up falling apart. Michigan State, last season, was 6-0 I believe, looked real dang good, and ended up ineligible for a bowl game. Sure, its a brand new season and all that, but you cant dismiss history. Do you feel comfortable betting money that MSU will end the season 9-3 or better? I sure dont. What about Michigan? Do you think UM is good enough to win a national title, or do you think Carr will do what he does every season? I would take the latter.

I dont like putting personal info on here, or any other board, but I will say this... sure, Deliverance razzes me for being wrong at times, but there's a reason why I made enough money off college football to not have to work 1 single day while I was going to college. Now, think about how much money you need, in just 1 month, to not have to work. History plays a role in how teams fare down the stretch.

[deliverance]

I agree with you that Notre Dame will beat USC at the end of the year. I would actually bet you that Michigan State does better than 2-10, as you said in a previous post. I think Michigan is a good team. National title good, no way. I just don't see how any of that has to do with how good Notre Dame is. They've barely won in all their games except against PSU, and got killed by Michigan. Notre Dame isn't better than a team like Texas or LSU because of these teams having great defenses, and they both have one loss. Notre Dame just hasn't been near as impressive as I thought they'd be this season.

[The Ancient Enemy]

Notre Dame has a lot of holes, but so does every other team this season. I personally feel that in the college game, if you have a deep threat at WR, a reliable RB, and a competent QB, you can throw short passes on any team in the nation in pretty much any season. Notre Dame has the capacity to do that this season. When they are on, they are on. Are they the best team in the country? I dont know. Probably not. Sure, UM crushed them, but I just feel like ND has a much better chance at 11-1 than UM does, and yes that is putting schedules aside.

I dont think MSU will go 2-10. That was just sarcasm. But given how little ability Smith has at keeping his team in order, I dont expect MSU to be bowl eligible. What makes you so confident that this is the season they'll have their act together? I just dont see it. The Big Ten is kind of a strange conference this year, and with a lot of teams at the bottom looking like they thoroughly deserve to be there, maybe MSU will be bowl eligible. I personally think Iowa is a disaster waiting to happen, after seeing them play twice. I think that team sucks. Wisconsin has a huge o-line, and really not much else. Purdue will be a joke by November, as usual, and Minnesota has nothing in 06. I think Penn State, at worst, is a 9-3 team, and that's fine for a team in a transition year: lose to the teams you're supposed to lose to, beat all the ones you're supposed to beat. I just dont think the offense can overcome anything better than 9-3, from what I've seen. But we do get UM at home, though, so we'll see.

[deliverance]

I agree that Iowa looks weak. They don't look like they should even be ranked. I think Michigan State is tough because their o-line is huge and Stanton is a good quarterback. Also, they run the option pretty well, and the Big 10 is a lot weaker this year. Michigan State has impressed me more than any other team in that conference other than Ohio State and Michigan. If PSU goes 9-3, I'll be surprised. Morelli has been bad. He makes way too many mistakes. He's got great WRs and can't get them the ball. As a quarterback with that kind of talent around you, just don't turn the ball over and you'll hang around with Notre Dame. For example, look at Colt McCoy. He has so much talent around him, all he has to do when he's passing is not throw an INT. PSU should maybe go down to Texas again and see if Joe can learn something again.

[The Ancient Enemy]

Even though the offense is looking kinda bad, they do at times show some signs of life, and the defense will alwyas keep them in games. So if the offense plays decent, and the defense plays at their standard level, they should be 9-3, IMO.

[Former Wildcat]

Penn State WILL NOT go 9-3. They have already lost two games by over 20 points and their offense has not shown up in either one. They will definitely lose to Michigan. That means they need to beat every other Big 10 team on their schedule. Also, I heard all morning on Saturday about Penn State's great receivers. Where were they? Other than Deon Butler, none of them have come up big with any consistancy. Derrick Williams is terribly overrated. The best thing he did for PSU is getting King to go there because King is a tough player.

[The Ancient Enemy]

Norwood isn't consistent? He's probably the best offensive player they have.

Besides, you need to get the ball to them for them to be good.

I dont wanna hear about 28-6. Those were garbage TD's, Wildcat, and you know that. Your Heisman candidate made 1 nice throw in that game and otherwise did pretty much nothing. Where was Ginn and Gonzalez? I guess it's okay to criticize Butler and Norwood, though, right?