Changed his mind since the election

[Bball]

Just the answer I predicted. Born into a comfortable lifestyle, it is easy to condemn those that aren't.
Maybe I am too sympathetic, I don't know. It just seems crazy that we have corporate thieves and politicians becoming millionaires and millions in our own country are suffering. One quick example would be Katrina, thousands upon thousands still displaced. Homes still filled with mold, no money or insurance money to fix them.

[southpaw]

Cry me a river. What do you know about me or my background? How dare you judge what I am, how I do things, or how I got to where I am. Typical condescending tone from an all knowing liberal.

You talk about Katrina and helping victims. What have you done personally to help out except whine and **** and moan about the gov't not doing enough. Did you donate money to your church to send down? Take a trip to Gulf Coast to help rebuild homes? Send care packages down to those who need them? Free Americans of their own free will are more than capable of taking care of each other without the gov't screwing things up!

[southpaw]

Just the answer I predicted. Born into a comfortable lifestyle, it is easy to condemn those that aren't.
Maybe I am too sympathetic, I don't know. It just seems crazy that we have corporate thieves and politicians becoming millionaires and millions in our own country are suffering. One quick example would be Katrina, thousands upon thousands still displaced. Homes still filled with mold, no money or insurance money to fix them.

I don't think you want to compare work histories or work ethic with me or community service and charitable contributions. All done because I want not because the gov't tells me I have too.

[Bball]

#1 -- With a family, I did basically all I could do, donate money. I also donate to a foundation called YELE. It is a fund to help poverty in Haiti. But this isn't a competition, New Orleans is just an issue that I take issue with.

#2 -- get fired up. Wasn't judging you or your lifestyle or work history. I don't judge. My statement probably sounded judgemental, for that, my apologies. But the statement, "life isn't fair, get used to it" is too easily muttered by people who have never seen hardships or rough turns.

Not looking to compare anything, this isn't a competition.

Contrary to what you may think, you can be a caring person and not be labeled a condescending liberal.

[southpaw]

Rule No. 1: Life is not fair. Get used to it. The average teen-ager uses the phrase "It's not fair" 8.6 times a day. You got it from your parents, who said it so often you decided they must be the most idealistic generation ever. When they started hearing it from their own kids, they realized Rule No. 1.

Rule No. 2: The real world won't care as much about your self-esteem as much as your school does. It'll expect you to accomplish something before you feel good about yourself. This may come as a shock. Usually, when inflated self-esteem meets reality, kids complain that it's not fair. (See Rule No. 1)

Rule No. 3: Sorry, you won't make $40,000 a year right out of high school. And you won't be a vice president or have a car phone either. You may even have to wear a uniform that doesn't have a Gap label.

Rule No. 4: If you think your teacher is tough, wait 'til you get a boss. He doesn't have tenure, so he tends to be a bit edgier. When you screw up, he's not going to ask you how you feel about it.

Rule No. 5: Flipping burgers is not beneath your dignity. Your grandparents had a different word for burger flipping. They called it opportunity. They weren't embarrassed making minimum wage either. They would have been embarrassed to sit around talking about Kurt Cobain all weekend.

Rule No. 6: It's not your parents' fault. If you screw up, you are responsible. This is the flip side of "It's my life," and "You're not the boss of me," and other eloquent proclamations of your generation. When you turn 18, it's on your dime. Don't whine about it, or you'll sound like a baby boomer.

Rule No. 7: Before you were born your parents weren't as boring as they are now. They got that way paying your bills, cleaning up your room and listening to you tell them how idealistic you are. And by the way, before you save the rain forest from the blood-sucking parasites of your parents' generation, try delousing the closet in your bedroom.

Rule No. 8: Your school may have done away with winners and losers. Life hasn't. In some schools, they'll give you as many times as you want to get the right answer. Failing grades have been abolished and class valedictorians scrapped, lest anyone's feelings be hurt. Effort is as important as results. This, of course, bears not the slightest resemblance to anything in real life. (See Rule No. 1, Rule No. 2 and Rule No. 4.)

Rule No. 9: Life is not divided into semesters, and you don't get summers off. Not even Easter break. They expect you to show up every day. For eight hours. And you don't get a new life every 10 weeks. It just goes on and on. While we're at it, very few jobs are interested in fostering your self-expression or helping you find yourself. Fewer still lead to self-realization. (See Rule No. 1 and Rule No. 2.)

Rule No. 10: Television is not real life. Your life is not a sitcom. Your problems will not all be solved in 30 minutes, minus time for commercials. In real life, people actually have to leave the coffee shop to go to jobs. Your friends will not be as perky or pliable as Jennifer Aniston.

Rule No. 11: Be nice to nerds. You may end up working for them. We all could.

book. It does, however, form the meat of his 2007 book 50 Rules Kids Won't Learn in School: Real-World Antidotes to Feel-Good Education.) Many versions omit the last three rules:
Rule No. 12: Smoking does not make you look cool. It makes you look moronic. Next time you're out cruising, watch an 11-year-old with a butt in his mouth. That's what you look like to anyone over 20. Ditto for "expressing yourself" with purple hair and/or pierced body parts.

Rule No. 13: You are not immortal. (See Rule No. 12.) If you are under the impression that living fast, dying young and leaving a beautiful corpse is romantic, you obviously haven't seen one of your peers at room temperature lately.

Rule No. 14: Enjoy this while you can. Sure parents are a pain, school's a bother, and life is depressing. But someday you'll realize how wonderful it was to be a kid. Maybe you should start now. You're welcome.


Advice columnist Ann Landers has printed the first ten items (uncredited) several times, and the list has been used by radio commentator Paul Harvey. The prize for misattribution, however, has to go to The Atlanta Journal and Constitution, which printed the list twice in three weeks in mid-2000, the first time crediting it to "Duluth state Rep. Brooks Coleman of Duluth," and the second time to Bill Gates.



Author unknown, a shame he/she should be given a pulitzer!

Difference between you and me is that I think gov't is the problem and you think the gov't solves everyone's problems.

[southpaw]

Our Government at it again: Cow Tax
Cow tax proposal would threaten agriculture viability

“With the economy in bad shape and the possibility of a deep recession looming, the Environmental Protection Agency is proposing to levy new taxes—on cows and pigs,” American Farm Bureau Federation Director of Regulatory Relations Rick Krause told Wyoming Farm Bureau members at their annual meeting. Krause spoke in Sheridan on Nov. 7.

“This is no laughing matter,” Krause said. “The cow tax and the pig tax are parts of a larger scheme by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to regulate greenhouse gases under the Clean Air Act.”

“Under the proposal, if a state charged the “presumptive minimum rate” from the EPA, the cow tax would be $175 per dairy cow, $87.50 per head for beef cattle and a little more than $20 per pig,” Krause explained.

Krause explained that the U.S. Department of Agriculture says that a producer with more than 25 dairy cows, 50 beef cattle or 200 hogs would emit more than 100 tons of carbon and be subject to the permitting requirements. “These thresholds would impact 99 percent of dairy producers, over 90 percent of beef producers and 95 percent of hog producers in the United States,” Krause stated.

According to Krause, the EPA has issued an Advanced Notice of Proposed Rulemaking in preparation to regulate automobile greenhouse gas emissions under the Clean Air Act (CAA). “The regulation of automobile emissions automatically initiates other provisions of the CAA,” Krause explained. “One of those provisions requires permits from anyone who emits more than 100 tons of a regulated pollutant per year and there are millions of sources that emit more than 100 tons of carbon.”



Told you this was coming. Price of Hamburger $10 lbs. The meaniegreenies don't care, the real skinny on this is that they want to make us all vegans!

[deliverance]

southy, where do you eat? My hamburgers are already $10.

[deliverance]

Don't worry. Obama will save you and your fellow farmers.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington ... bill_N.htm

[southpaw]

I sell all natural, drug free, grass-fed, pure black angus hamburger for $2.50 lbs.

I don't need gov't help, just do what all business do...pass the cost along to the consumer. Just another tax on the consumer from the US gov't!

What do you think of Obama now? Status quo..the establishment candidate. The vast, vast majority of the Farm Bill goes to the global Ag conglomerates such as ADM, Con-Ag, Cargill, etc. Most of the subsidies are for crops...corn, rice, cotton, soybeans, and others. Feedlots, CAFO's, and Tyson chicken all benefit. The small farmer continues to get marginalized. Status quo farm bill over the last 50 years that has done nothing but create a whole generation of Americans raised on a poor, commodity, quantity driven diet with no emphasis on quality. The current health care crisis IMO can be directly correlated to big Agri-Business feeding us garbage.

http://www.eatwild.com

[deliverance]

There's multiple farmers in the Bedford County area that get $50,000 +++++ in subsidies. I can't remember the site, but there's a long list that get a lot of money from the government, so maybe it's not all bad?