High School Recruiting

[El-Moldo]

They DO draw from anywhere. You even just said that kids from as far away as Somerset attend McCort. And since they DO NOT have to be Catholic, that SPELLS OUT ANYONE FROM ANYWHERE is you ask me. NO borders, NO denials of admittance like you just said..... NOW, can someone explain to me where the money comes from for all of these reduced tuitions? And I don't mean Cleveland either. Does it come from Catholic Organizations, the local Catholic Diecese, Charities and Donations, the Government, private sources? What is the actual source of the money for tuition reduction?

[tbs3189]

You said Hell, not meaning the after death kind...as a former/current catholic student, shouldn't you get hit with a ruler by a nun? Or perhaps a meeting with your priest?

[Pale Rider]

I'll bet the money to fund these 'special' students comes from the increased gate fees at the stadiums they don't own, but have to rent, because they are too poor to afford their own! LOL. L-user- you said before about 20 schools.... that's a pretty good field to "draw" from. You said it, not the rest of us. BTW- amongst the names you've tossed about- you forgot Jake Livella. He might be ticked you're not including him in all this notoriety.

[CRLionDawg]

Catholic Schools = Private Schools. Sure a percentage of the students go to a "Catholic" school to be seperate from the secular environment found in public schools. Most of the enrollment is a result of seeking out a higher quality social environment, a superior academic offering and an athletic program that strives to be the best. If more public schools offered this trilogy of services then we wouldnt be arguing here today.

As I have argued for and stated repeatedly , PA should switch a :school of choice format.

There is an environment of competition now. Unfortunately the public schools choose to try to make it hard on the privates rather than raise their own bar. Maintain and preserve the status quo, all in the name of "fairness."

[Pale Rider]

I'll cut you some slack on my last post, because it was sarcasm, because it was discussed at great length last year, before you were around. I always say I shouldn't get into a battle of wits with an unarmed person. Now you know the rest of the story.

[highschoolsportsfan]

The fact that students get reduced tuition proves that they recruit athletes, otherwise they would just offer their school at regular tuition. One way to even the playing field would be to go to a voucher system for all schools, but too many people in education are against it.

[El-Moldo]

highschoolsportsfan is absolutely correct when he says that reduced tuition proves they either recruit or entice non-catholics who are athletes to attend McCort. Here's why: if you attend WVU and live in West Virginia, your tuition is much lower that if you live in Pennsylvania and attend WVU. Why are tuitions different? Well, people who live in West Virginia pay taxes to that state, and this allows them to get a discount on their education, NO MATTER how rich or poor they are. Kids from PA have parents who do not pay taxes to West Virginia, so why should that state's university give discounts to outsiders? Everyone with me so far?...Now, since non-catholics never, ever contribute to the collection plates of the Catholic churches in our area, since they actually have NOTHING to do with the Catholic church outside of education, WHY SHOULD THEY DESERVE OR EXPECT GENEROSITY FROM MCCORT OR THE DIOCESE IN THE FORM OF TUITION REDUCTIONS, UNLESS THEY ARE GIVING SOMETHING BACK IN RETURN, SUCH AS PLAYING SPORTS AND IMPROVING THE STATE OF MCCORTS ATHLETIC PROGRAM. They get tuition reductions or financial aid for ONE reason, and it's not because they're poor.

[El-Moldo]

Ya, I understand. Why non-catholics get aid is what I can't understand. See my last post and it might tell you what I think. ...If my opinion means nothing to you, why are you still trying to downplay it, and defend you own opinion? ...I'll try to get one of those forms. I'm anxious to see if they ask what parrish you go to. If it's Shiloh Baptist, do they even consider it? If not, where does their AID come from? The alumni? The School itself? Somebody is giving non-catholics some money for tuition. Who is it and why?.....You say that non-catholics pay more in tuition, yet get financial aid? What sense does that make? Give us some more and we'll give you some back, maybe even a little extra!!!... I'll tell you what. If I was a parent of a McCort student, a good catholic, making a nice living, and I did not get a tuition reduction for my kid, I'd be pissed if I found out that non-catholics were getting money to reduce their tuition and I didn't....Again, as in my last post, find out the source of the money that is used to reduce the tuition of non-catholics. We'd like to know.

[CRLionDawg]

Why do you always divert away from the real issue? It is about quality. ANd the parents right to choose that quality for their children. If the public schools were to direct their efforts toward providing a product equal to that of the privates we would not be arguing about tuition and financial awards.

HSSF, vouchers would be a legitimate solution to this situation. Yes the biggest opponent to that would be the teachers union. They frown on competition because that would force those who are riding the gravy train and can coast by on the road of mediocrity to be accountable.

Moldo I dont think you recognize how fascist you sound when you argue your points. Why beat up on the private schools so hard?

[ham55]

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HSSF, vouchers would be a legitimate solution to this situation. Yes the biggest opponent to that would be the teachers union. They frown on competition because that would force those who are riding the gravy train and can coast by on the road of mediocrity to be accountable.

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WOW, is all I can say, have you ever stepped foot in the classroom? I'm guessing no, my mother is a teacher and she works her **** off everyday in the classroom. 'road of mediocrity' are you serious? The plan that Bush has in place, with the bush no child left behind program, is ludacris. Not every child will be perfect, not every child learns on the same level. The private schools have great academics because parents send the BRIGHT kids to these schools. Would you waste money on an absolute idiot who can't learn at an advanced rate? It's easy to see why those schools have such great testing scores.

Step foot in a classroom and teach for a week, hell, for a month, I'd bet you'd be begging to get outta there. Gravy train, ask Coach how much of a "gravy train" it is to do what he does on a daily basis. You're a pompus jackass who sends his kids to a prepschool because you feel that it will help them when they reach college, well let me ask you this, what will you think when your kids are out scored and out done by public education students?