Penn State Football

[WPIAL~Titan]

The bottom line is that the Grumpy Old Gnome up in NitWit Valley has sabatoged Pitt/PSU from ever happening until he's gone.

JP insisted on a 2-for-1 deal even after the 12th game was added. That's a grudge he's still holding against Pitt from the early 1980s when he tried to invent college athletics (After all, JoePa is the self-proclaimed inventor of college football, right??? I mean, why leave college football to the Switzers and Sherrills of the world, JoePa's the savior...Nothing ever goes wrong at PSU) with an all-sports conference in the east and Pitt, the one program he needed to make it all happen, refused to succumb to his controlling, brainwashing, selfish ways. Thank goodness Pitt didn't take the old man's bait.

Pitt doesn't play NOTRE DAME or IOWA or VIRGINA 2-for-1...Why in the world would Pitt play PSU, a 2nd rate, 2nd tier program, 2 for 1???

JokePa is getting exactly what he deserves...

-A program that's falling faster than Martha Stewart stock

-A persona that's been linked to senility and out of control behavior (chasing down officials during and after games and physically accosting them with no reppercussions fromthe university of B10)

-A coaching staff with major dissention problems (ie-Who's calling the plays--Daddy, Prince JayPa, or the hired O-Coordinator Galen Hall, who was railroaded out of his last head coaching job due to some blatant NCAA violations involving giving lots of $$$ to players and their families)

-An array of well publicized criminal activity by his players, proof that he's covered up and swept discipline under the rug of his "GRAND EXPERIMENT" (see Anwar Phillips playing in a bowl game AFTER being expelled by PSU' judicial review board, et al)

-Pathetic practicing of nepotism by allowing his incompetent son to continue coaching

I could go on, but you get the point.

With schedules set through around 2015, Pitt/PSU is not going to happen anytime soon.

Let The Inventor of College Football go to his grave knowing that he was shut out and failed to penetrate the 35 yard line in his last game against Pitt. I guess he didn't invent football on that September day in 2000. Oh wait, he did--he was the inventor of ineptitude on offense and the inventor of the "1-2-3 punt" offensive scheme on that day.

Football...MY way...The Grand Experiment...Those outside of the PSU and JoekPa cult laugh hysterically at this drivel...and laugh even harder at those PSU Blue and White Cult Followers who actually believe it as if its a religion!!!!

WT

[El-Moldo]

BisonBlue07: We're you hit on the head lately or something? You mean to tell me the the so-called greatest football coach who ever lived "has NO influence" on who his team schedules????? And tell me, how does playing Temple or Syracuse make MORE money for PSU than playing Pitt??? They are probably going to sellout their home games, NO MATTER who they play. They are going to weasel out 7 home games each year, NO MATTER who they play. WHY would playing Pitt produce less money for Penn State? For starters, look at how much they will save on transportation, a bus trip to Pittsburgh compared to plane fares to Alabama? Maybe the money they save there could help out that volleyball team. GEEZ!!

[BisonBlue07]

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with an all-sports conference in the east and Pitt, the one program he needed to make it all happen
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Well answer this one for me Titan, if pitt was the only program that stopped an all-east conference from happening then isn't it pitt's fault that they don't play PSU every year??? If the rest of the teams in the east liked the idea and thought it was a good idea then Joe isn't the only person who believed that it actually was a good idea. Maybe pitt might have made a different decision if they wanted to play penn state so badly......



and moldo when it comes down to it, PSU offered pitt a 3 year deal that would work for penn state's budget, pitt rejected it, so why is it ONLY the nittany lions fault?? Does pitt do no wrong? and the difference between having to drive a bus to pitt or fly to alabama would be a few thousand dollars if that, nothing compared to the hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars they would make from a home game (and yes if my calculations are correct, they make at least $4 million EVERY home game)

[ham55]

"(After all, JoePa is the self-proclaimed inventor of college football, right??? I mean, why leave college football to the Switzers and Sherrills of the world, JoePa's the savior...Nothing ever goes wrong at PSU)"

NUMBER 1000!!!! YAY, KEEP USING THE SAME GAY ANALOGY!!!

"Pitt doesn't play NOTRE DAME or IOWA or VIRGINA 2-for-1...Why in the world would Pitt play PSU, a 2nd rate, 2nd tier program, 2 for 1???"

PSU does play NOTRE DAME 1/1 and did play Virgina 1/1 a while back, do you know why? IT MAKES SENSE. PSU would get a guaranteed nationally covered game with those two. While Pitt PSU might get nationally covered, who outside of the Western PA region is really going to give two $#!ts about it? Spreading out to new regions and getting your name out there, that's what it's all about. And if Pitt wanted to play so bad, they WOULD have agreed to the deal. And we're sorry that PSU doesn't have to go out and make deals to play with IOWA, MICHIGAN STATE, MICHIGAN, OHIO STATE, they are already normally scheduled...

"-A program that's falling faster than Martha Stewart stock "

Funny, on ESPN RADIO the other day, they had PSU to finish in the top 15 this year with 3 losses at the most... But they don't know what they're talking about correct?

"-A persona that's been linked to senility and out of control behavior (chasing down officials during and after games and physically accosting them with no reppercussions fromthe university of B10) "

Ahh yes, passion for your team now turns into senility and craziness. Cowher didn't receive any of this bullcrap when he ran on the field at 3 rivers and stuffed a pic of his 11 men on the field in the ref's pocket. But because Joe does it, now it's a terrible act and he might as well be drawn and quartered...

"Let The Inventor of College Football go to his grave knowing that he was shut out and failed to penetrate the 35 yard line in his last game against Pitt. I guess he didn't invent football on that September day in 2000. Oh wait, he did--he was the inventor of ineptitude on offense and the inventor of the "1-2-3 punt" offensive scheme on that day. "

I'm sure that just burns a hole in him, Pitt PSU means to him what it does to you. If that's what you have to hang your hat on, congrats, I feel bad for you. Why don't you give a run down of stats for that game, I'm sure you have them memorized and include that in your nightly "$pank B@nk".

The fact of the matter is that Pitt and PSU both had ample opportunities to make this happen in the near future, and neither came through. Moving on, back to talking about PSU this year, and enough of the Pitt/PSU bickering...

[Coach]

another reason to not play Pitt...It would give them a second sellout each year. The WVU and PSU fans have to travel to help pack Heinz. PSU plays Ohio for example...50 bucks a ticket...100,000 ppl. Pitt plays at like 25 bucks a ticket in a city and 30000 show up.

[HOLLYWOOD]

Come Get YOU some of the EERS!! If Penn State is so almighty then it doesn't matter if they play on the road a few games every once and a while instead of getting a 9-1 series with IUP! Heck they need all the cupcakes to make a bowl game now so I really don't blame them for playing bad teams since they don't know what a bowl game is anymore!! I feel so bad for them, really I do!! Letsssssssss Goooooooo Mountaineers!!

[The Ancient Enemy]

Hey Hollywood, what are you gonna call this year? I mean, if 8-5 is a "break-out" year in Morgantown, what's 4-8? WVU is gonna be even worse than they usually are, and make that conference look even less credible. Good luck on achieving your 4 wins, I hope you can pull them out. After all those recruits you brought in, you guys are national title contenders, right? PAT WHITE FOR PRESIDENT!!!!

Moldy, actually yes, PSU has national coverage. I see every PSU game in Dallas, either on the Gameplan or on regular programming. Actually, most of them were on regular programming.

According to Lindy's, Penn State's defense gave up 5 TD's last season and had 16 picks. They also have Zemeitis as the 2nd or 3rd ranked safety in the nation.

An average team can get 2nd place in the Big East. What average team will it be? Pitt or Syracuse?

[El-Moldo]

Analyse it any way you want. There is ONE obstacle to the Pitt-Penn State renewel, and one reason. They are PATERNO and SPITE.

[flybynight]

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BisonBlue07: We're you hit on the head lately or something? You mean to tell me the the so-called greatest football coach who ever lived "has NO influence" on who his team schedules????? And tell me, how does playing Temple or Syracuse make MORE money for PSU than playing Pitt??? They are probably going to sellout their home games, NO MATTER who they play. They are going to weasel out 7 home games each year, NO MATTER who they play. WHY would playing Pitt produce less money for Penn State? For starters, look at how much they will save on transportation, a bus trip to Pittsburgh compared to plane fares to Alabama? Maybe the money they save there could help out that volleyball team. GEEZ!!
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moldo, this is a fact, the revanue from just the football program is enough to support all other sports at psu, so dont talking about the team saving money

[flybynight]

the only reason pitt has a better record than psu is because the big east is a joke conference, the big ten is atleast competive...if pitt was that "great" would they of been schooled like they were by utah?