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Re: Clairton vs Berlin

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Manfred wrote:I'm curious, when someone mentioned Clairton being classy in their blowout wins.  50, 60, 70 point wins.  I thought 'class' was defined by many others, as taking a knee the last few minutes.  Now- how many times has Clairton taken a knee?
Like it was said before, it's easy to be classy and respectful when you're blowing teams out. When you aren't winning or you lose is when your true colors will shine. 
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OK forget national rankings because it's clear they are flawed, or they don't agree with one another. 

Rivals - Wade is #5 nationally (#1 CB)
24/7 - Wade is #58 (#6 CB)
ESPN - Wase is #119 nationally (#15 athlete)

So average that out, He's the 60th best junior in the country. Still pretty good. 

What they can agree on, is that Wade is among the top 3 juniors in PA with DeAndre Swift and Paris Ford.  He's obviously really good. Also his 40 time at 4.5 is more than adequate for a corner and enough for him to be the fastest player on the field Tonight.  Although I've seen it at 4.4 on other websites.  
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Manfred wrote:I'm curious, when someone mentioned Clairton being classy in their blowout wins.  50, 60, 70 point wins.  I thought 'class' was defined by many others, as taking a knee the last few minutes.  Now- how many times has Clairton taken a knee?
Every game I've attended Clairton has taken a knee except for the Avonworth game but we got the ball w 45 tics on the clock inside the 5. We simply ran two qb sneaks up the middle and ran out the clock. 
When we beat Avella by 84, a few years ago, they said there was nothing Clairton could do. And the Wilkinsburg coach blamed himself and his team for losing 86-0. 
Now against Bentworth, in 2011/2012 timeframe, we was up by 70 at halftime, then started kneeling the ball to start the 2nd half. Bentworth's hc called a timeout and cussed out Nola. I really don't know what some of y'all want out of Clairton in the mist of these blowouts. I'd prefer the WPIAL to create smaller sized conferences which would allow Clairton to play some 3A schools. I'd much rather watch Clairton play and beat a West Mifflin by a td than pound some school by 70. WPIAL schools simply aren't given the same flexibility in playing multiclass games like the rest of the state, and the result is these kind of blowouts. 
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Manfred wrote:I'm curious, when someone mentioned Clairton being classy in their blowout wins.  50, 60, 70 point wins.  I thought 'class' was defined by many others, as taking a knee the last few minutes.  Now- how many times has Clairton taken a knee?
Every game I've attended Clairton has taken a knee except for the Avonworth game but we got the ball w 45 tics on the clock inside the 5. We simply ran two qb sneaks up the middle and ran out the clock. 
When we beat Avella by 84, a few years ago, they said there was nothing Clairton could do. And the Wilkinsburg coach blamed himself and his team for losing 86-0. 
Now against Bentworth, in 2011/2012 timeframe, we was up by 70 at halftime, then started kneeling the ball to start the 2nd half. Bentworth's hc called a timeout and cussed out Nola. I really don't know what some of y'all want out of Clairton in the mist of these blowouts. I'd prefer the WPIAL to create smaller sized conferences which would allow Clairton to play some 3A schools. I'd much rather watch Clairton play and beat a West Mifflin by a td than pound some school by 70. WPIAL schools simply aren't given the same flexibility in playing multiclass games like the rest of the state, and the result is these kind of blowouts. 
Agreed, Quips/Bears ought to play
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Crimson's Ghost wrote:OK forget national rankings because it's clear they are flawed, or they don't agree with one another. 

Rivals - Wade is #5 nationally (#1 CB)
24/7 - Wade is #58 (#6 CB)
ESPN - Wase is #119 nationally (#15 athlete)

So average that out, He's the 60th best junior in the country. Still pretty good. 

What they can agree on, is that Wade is among the top 3 juniors in PA with DeAndre Swift and Paris Ford.  He's obviously really good. Also his 40 time at 4.5 is more than adequate for a corner and enough for him to be the fastest player on the field Tonight.  Although I've seen it at 4.4 on other websites.  
I think the key to those rankings is they came out before the kid took a snap for his jr season.  Obviously injuries hampered his performance this season but he's back to full strength and rolling...had he not had the injury he may have already gotten upgraded on those sites..To be ranked that highly as a sophomore is truly impressive, and he has a work ethic beyond measure. He's the real deal and my reach Pryor like status in his Sr season. Got to watch him a bit this past summer at 7 on 7 in State College...He was probably the only player that wasn't foolin around while other teams were playin..he was watching and studying each team very intensely. 
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12HankQB wrote:
Manfred wrote:I'm curious, when someone mentioned Clairton being classy in their blowout wins.  50, 60, 70 point wins.  I thought 'class' was defined by many others, as taking a knee the last few minutes.  Now- how many times has Clairton taken a knee?
Like it was said before, it's easy to be classy and respectful when you're blowing teams out. When you aren't winning or you lose is when your true colors will shine. 
Completely fair point. I witnessed two losses in 2013, end of the streak against Monessen and the semiFinals loss against Sto-Rox. Neither occasion hurt the image in terms of class. The kids took the losses with class and shook the other team's hand. I'd hope that loss to BG, last season, was just a one-off occurrence, because in the 20+ years of watching Bears football I've never seen the team act that way. However, in a sense that may have actually been a blessing in disguise. The team is no longer doing pregame shenanigans to attempt to intimidate the opponent and they seem to be more disciplined in terms of taking unsportsmanlike penalties. Who knows if those things return next season, when probation is lifted. I'd hope not, because I despised those shenanigans and felt a pregame brawl was bound to happen. 
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animus wrote:
Manfred wrote:I'm curious, when someone mentioned Clairton being classy in their blowout wins.  50, 60, 70 point wins.  I thought 'class' was defined by many others, as taking a knee the last few minutes.  Now- how many times has Clairton taken a knee?
Every game I've attended Clairton has taken a knee except for the Avonworth game but we got the ball w 45 tics on the clock inside the 5. We simply ran two qb sneaks up the middle and ran out the clock. 
When we beat Avella by 84, a few years ago, they said there was nothing Clairton could do. And the Wilkinsburg coach blamed himself and his team for losing 86-0. 
Now against Bentworth, in 2011/2012 timeframe, we was up by 70 at halftime, then started kneeling the ball to start the 2nd half. Bentworth's hc called a timeout and cussed out Nola. I really don't know what some of y'all want out of Clairton in the mist of these blowouts. I'd prefer the WPIAL to create smaller sized conferences which would allow Clairton to play some 3A schools. I'd much rather watch Clairton play and beat a West Mifflin by a td than pound some school by 70. WPIAL schools simply aren't given the same flexibility in playing multiclass games like the rest of the state, and the result is these kind of blowouts. 
Agreed, Quips/Bears ought to play
Hell yea they need to. That game would generate a ton of interest. There was a chance of that game being played a few years ago, but the WPIAL wipe it from under us by having these 9/10 team leagues.... There was also talks of a Clairton/SCA home/home during that timeframe. 
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animus wrote:
Manfred wrote:I'm curious, when someone mentioned Clairton being classy in their blowout wins.  50, 60, 70 point wins.  I thought 'class' was defined by many others, as taking a knee the last few minutes.  Now- how many times has Clairton taken a knee?
Every game I've attended Clairton has taken a knee except for the Avonworth game but we got the ball w 45 tics on the clock inside the 5. We simply ran two qb sneaks up the middle and ran out the clock. 
When we beat Avella by 84, a few years ago, they said there was nothing Clairton could do. And the Wilkinsburg coach blamed himself and his team for losing 86-0. 
Now against Bentworth, in 2011/2012 timeframe, we was up by 70 at halftime, then started kneeling the ball to start the 2nd half. Bentworth's hc called a timeout and cussed out Nola. I really don't know what some of y'all want out of Clairton in the mist of these blowouts. I'd prefer the WPIAL to create smaller sized conferences which would allow Clairton to play some 3A schools. I'd much rather watch Clairton play and beat a West Mifflin by a td than pound some school by 70. WPIAL schools simply aren't given the same flexibility in playing multiclass games like the rest of the state, and the result is these kind of blowouts. 
Sure, they are. It's called playing up.  Clairton should at least play 2A next year.  I would guess Aliquippa will go to 3A. Their current conference ranges from 2A-4A.  I imagine conferences in 1A and 2A will be 6-8 teams.  The larger classes can get away with two conferences of 9-10 teams.
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What Clairton has done with the amount of kids they have is very impressive. I would like to see them move up but at the same time they are also winning a lot of state championships. I can tell you i would have loved to been able to play for 1 every year and win most of them. I was at the state game vs. BG last year and it was one of the best games ive watched over the last several years. The way the handled the end of the game wasnt right but the way the game had ended and with them feeling they had scored the 2pt conversion I'm not surprised it boiled over. They lack size on the line but make up for it with speed and size at the WR positions.
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Under the current format playing up wasn't an option with 7-8 lineman and dressing as low as 18 kids for some games. With the changes in classifications going from four to six, that may create some more wiggle room in scheduling and the ability to play up a classification. Plus i don't think you realize how small of a school Clairton is. The current enrollment # is 87 and the school is only getting smaller.
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