Earth to the PIAA, are you out there PIAA?

[usatf oldguy]

don't try logic cross' it doesn't work, trust me!!

Logic would be if public schools represent 90% of the schools then they should probably win 90% of the championships right!Wait a minute this is reversed for some reason so much for logic. The privates are going to defend themselves even when the facts show how grossly disproportionate things are.NUMBERS DON'T LIE!

[wickedcrossover]

I agree with USAT&F, logic should have nothing to do with any of this. If a student and their parents decide that a parochial schoolis the best option for that student and the parents are willing to pu out $3k-$10k or whatever tuition is, then they should be able to do so. That is called having a choice. I would think that the challenge for the public schools would be to try to address why students would go to a private school and then try to take action to offset those reasons. That is called competition and is more likely to make our public schools better. It helps prevent a monopoly. I guess it's a good thing homeschoolers don't start a league.

[usatf oldguy]

Crossover if a parent decides to send a kid to a private so be it.We are talking about leveling the playing field on this abortion of a current system that is in place.There is no way a school that can get kids from an area that encompasses 2 or 3 counties should be in A or AA period. Lets look for example at bg they have holidaysburg and altoona plus the surrounding schools such as bellwood tyrone etc to choose from.2 quad A schools to draw from and they are an A school? Then you can go to the true city schools out in pittsburgh and harrisburg and philly.Should privates be in A and AA when you are drawing from a major metropolis? I don't think so.Let's not even pretend on here that people don't go to these schools for sports.I'm not that naive and neither was the arch diocese in pittsburgh when he was quoted as saying that there is a recruiting problem in the pittsburgh area. People naturally want to play on winners and thats fine,but if you are going to form an allstar team bump up don't terrorize the small school classifications and say we don't recruit.I'm not buying it and most everybody else isn't either.

[THE CHOPS]

I just posted this same post on another thread just in case it went by you....


PLEASE READ & TAKE HEED:

I talked to Melssia Martz (asst.) too Brad Cashman (P.I.A.A.) Executive Director & I ask her in a private setting when I was at Hershey Park Arena about (6) years ago, when I was at the State~Finals, on why the Catholic & Private schools are entitled to play in the P.I.A.A.

She told Me It's this way: & It's going to stay this way as long as Brad Cashman is the over~seer...

She explained that first of all, The Catholic & Private schools pay their dues too the P.I.A.A. just like any other Public schools do & are entitled to participate as such...

Second of all, If you took a vote through the P.I.A.A. Officers in a session & voted the Catholic & Private schools out, you'd be looing at a huge law suite, that the P.I.A.A. would not even want to get into. Because it would pull down the P.I.A.A. & it's whole foundation in moneys to fight them...

She went on to say, that The Catholic Church & Private shcools are one of "The Richest Organizations in the World" & would get together & fight together in a Law Suite, for staying into something that they where invited into years ago. & they have the financial backings to fight this until they'd win...

So! She said, Why Rock "The Perverbial Boat", when it's not needed ???

In fact she went on to say (6) years ago (too Me) that in a few years, they will even try too bring in the Philadelphia Public Schools & Philadelphia Catholic League, along with any other Private schools who want to join in the P.I.A.A.'s State playyoff system.... & you can see by this statement (6) Years ago, that it is now a true happening...

She called it a {Win~Win} situation for the P.I.A.A. because they'd have the whole Pennsylvania School system at large & entered into a Pennsylvania State Playoffs. She called it a true Pennsylvania State Championships. & not just for The Public Schools at large....

So! there you have it....

Quit Bitching & moaning about The Private & Catholic Schools on these posting boards, because it ain't gonna change any time soon.... It's called beating a DEAD HORSE !!!!!!

My own personal view on this is. (IF) your team is real good, then you should be able to beat anyone who is in your way... Loaded up (or) not....

Also: I have a saying, that if your the last Public school left standing in the State playoffs & you get beat by a Catholic (or) Private school. Your still the "Best dang Public school", in the State... with (or 0 with out the Gold medal hanging on your neck....


The Chops...
Official BleacherCoach

[usatf oldguy]

Sorry chops got to disagree on this one.If something is wrong it's wrong.The look the other way mentality doesn't work here.Sounds to me like money and corruption rule the PIAA if a shred of your post is right.Besides if we should think this way just do away with all classifications period.Like you said if you are good enough you should be able to beat a team stacked or not!

[THE CHOPS]

usatf oldguy

Oh I don't agree with the P.I.A.A. at all... Don't get me wrong ! I think that the Privates & Religious schools should be in there own league & sets of rules...

I'm just telling you what they told Me. (They) P.I.A.A. in my book, are very corrupt & cowardly...

It's just that I've come to the conclusion (as long as Cashman) runs the P.I.A.A. ship..This is what we have...

Public schools shouldn't have to take a back seat to giving in.

The Chops...

[once a runner]

Chops, I agree that a change will not be made under Cashman. However, if enough people make noise about it, maybe it will be changed in the future. If everyone keeps their mouth shut about this topic, the powers that be will think that nothing is wrong and never consider a change. The only way to change this, even though it will not happen in the near future, is to protest more.

I know those who have been on this board for some time have seen this argument ad nauseum, but keep in mind that there are always new members joining. Pointing out the unfairness of the situation will hopefully increase the number of protesters to this bad law.

[THE CHOPS]

Believe Me, Mr. Cashman has been informed many ~many times about this topic & he refuses to budge...

What we need is a petition drawn up by a lawyer & have it curculated & signed by eveyone that you can get to sign it, for about three or four months & then have the lawyer take to a P.I.A.A. Board Meeting...

I don't know any other way too combat something of this nature. It's either that, or everyone has to stay away from the games in protest & not go to any more games. This would hit them in the wallet, but then the kids also get hurt too...

Any other sugestions ???

The chops...

[lakersfan24]

So say I'm a star player at Richland highschool. I talk to a few other great bball players from around the area and we all realize, "Hey.. If we all just go to McCort we can win the State Championship". How would this be fair to those Public schools, who not only lose players but cannot bring anyone in to replace them! It's like Free Agency in the NBA except only a few teams are allowed to sign anyone, Public schools can only drop or trade players, while Privates can sign whomever they please.

[southpaw]

It is not just privates that have an advantage. What about the open enrollments in Philly and Pittsburgh City schools? What about the charter schools that suddenly pop up out of nowhere with marquee athletes on their rosters. Who is the new "Strawberry Mansion" this year. One solution would be to allow OPEN enrollment across the entire state. Let students enroll where they want to without penalizing the public schools with the "coop" moniker.