D-1 talent?

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DT I would have to agree with you he goes hard, but it seems like now colleges love taking the phsyical stats(height, 40 time) rather than how good you actually are on the field and the game stats(rushing yards ect) which hurts many players from getting a D1 opportunities
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User - I wasn't trying to degrade the tackles from last year. Maybe it just seemed to me that McCort was a slow offensive line last year. There wasn't the tenacity I have seen this year.
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Well Deepthought that slow oline crushed the Jtown D1 dlinemen two years running. Look at the tape and you will see the truth. So dont try a personal attack at a youngman who preformed much better than those big name lineman.
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I'm sorry that my first post was harsh I didn't mean it to be...but let me try to help myself out here...and please correct me if i'm wrong...McCort has always ran the same base plays. A lot of traps and quick hitters. Last year, on paper it would seem that this would be there best year and what not...especially with how big the Oline looked. Now, I watched many of their games last year and I'm sorry but they never DOMINATED from START to FINISH maybe besides Somerset but certainly not against Richland, Westmont etc. The westmont game was still close at halftime! Maybe it wasn't all just the Oline but something was definately not gelling. And since it all starts with the line there must've been some problems there...and I'm sorry if was personal to the tackles...I am a fan a BM football
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Well you see I played less than half in all those games, I am not saying that i was at all the best player on that team but when you put my name in here im gonna defend myself. By the way its Pears spelled liked the fruit but pronounced Peers. But i understand were you are coming from it just looked like a presonal attack at me. However minus the punt return and the pick six, the McCort oline and dline dominated against jtown, again tape will prove.
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I have to say McCorts "great" O-Line of last year was simply overrated, look at the D-6 Championship gametape to prove it. It seems to an outside viewer that possibly McCort's coach could of used a few of those new offesnive linemen of this year and could of had more success.
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We can look at the tape of the D-6 championship last year and what you will see is an o-line that was not hindered by their opponent but one that was hindered by a one dimensional offense. Forest Hills wasn't fooled at all by the McCort offense and it showed. McCort's inability to throw the ball down field cost them. McCort had the biggest line last year and probably the most talented. No matter what line you have, when there are 8 or 9 of your opponents in the box. You're going to have trouble.
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You hit the nail on the head there TheNatural! I believe FH played man coverage on the outside most of the time. The safety was pretty tight on the linebackers. I don't care how good of a line you have... it's near impossible to put big numbers up on a team that is stacked up on the line. This is especially so against a FH defense that is almost always a run-stop defense.

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1 thing one must be takin in to consideration is that pears played both ways, d.jones(lots of playing time at guard) played a ton on defense, along with schellhammer(guard). Paros(center) and turner(tackle) are the only o linemen that didnt play both ways...i dont care what kind of athlete you are, it takes a toll to go bothways....now kowchak is a very strong and athletic player and he doesnt have all that extra baggage some of the linemen had last year, if mccort would have got the play of kowchak (first year at mccort learning the plays) and w. jones(a player that had not seen much playing time as a soph and jr year) and some other linemen they had last year, then it would have been a sight to see...but a few ppl were not able to step up and their line suffered....btw...mccorts loss to fh last year in the championship was due to turnovers, 2-3 huge ones caused by fh(1 while mccort was threatening on fh's 25, a blocked punt on mccorts 15, and a fumble on a kick off inside mccorts 20), another due to lack of exectution between qb and rb...resulting as a turnover on mccorts 30....the line play was a stalemate, maybe in mccorts favor due to limiting the fh rushing attack wayy less than fh was able to gain on week 8...
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Post by Deep Thought »

Good posts everyone, This information is all well put. At the beginning of the '05 everyone said how good the BMHS Oline would be. Considering they had most of their starters back except 1 or 2. But, you're right you cannot expect the OLine to do everything if the Quarterback has a hard time throwing the ball.

So that brings me to the sheridan kid last year...what happened to him? I caught a lot of their games last year and in '04 and you wouldve thought it was a different person out there. Was it because he didn't have the weapons like Lewis, Vargga, Levella and Cruz? In '05 he still had solid, reliable players such as Spangler, Barbin, Wadlley. If I'm not mistaken, Spangler is on most receieving records at BMHS! And this year, Defrancis has arguably the same receiving talent and from what we thought at first to be an inferior line than in '05. So the quarterback/wr play must make some difference. Why is this 06 offense a great two-pronged attack compared to last year?
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