BG Canton

[youngbuck]

The 3 new names on their roster you speak of were natural break transfers, which mean they transferred after 8 th grade prior to 9th

Lol, “natural transfers.”

Let's go BG

[guru1]

The 3 new names on their roster you speak of were natural break transfers, which mean they transferred after 8 th grade prior to 9th

Isn’t that really the point though? I don’t think BG actively goes out and recruits anyone. That’s just ridiculous really…. The issue is that it’s simple for a “natural transfer” for kids from 6A Altoona SD and/or 5A Hollidaysburg SD etc to just change schools because it’s right in Blair county. Most Class A small schools don’t have that kind of draw. I don’t fault BG whatsoever… do the best you can under the rules. I blame the PIAA. If they can’t see that situation is apples and oranges to almost all small public schools and gives them a competitive advantage I don’t know what else to say…. Perhaps the PIAA simply doesn’t care? I’ll be rooting for BG tomorrow because it’s not the kids fault. They work hard…. As I said… it’s the PIAA’s fault for not addressing these situations (and let’s be honest.. we talk about BG because of the success and location here but this goes on statewide and needs fixed)

[Earl34]

Everybody here feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but every school has a tuition program which allows students from outside the district to attend. That means the Southern Hunt kid passed 4 or 5 districts where his parents could have paid to send their child. 1 of which BG just geat in the D6 finals. I do not know why they chose BG, but maybe if any of those schools were more appealing they certainly COULD have sent him their. I believe the playing field is more even than people want to believe.

[JVfan]

I think you're right Earl--but here's the thing that I don't understand. Juniata Valley is still referred to as JVU here. Those girls transferred to JV in junior high. According to PIAA rules, they had to jump to AA after two trips to Hershey with the transfer protocol. If there's transfers to BG in 9th grade, why isn't that same rule applied? Bellwood had transfers, Central had a two hundred+ running back/linebacker from JV--no one calls them CU or B-AU. Southern Columbia has absolutely bent the rules for years and remain AA. I suppose if that Southern Hunt. player would have transferred to JV or MU or any other county school--they'd be a university too.

[guru1]

Everybody here feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but every school has a tuition program which allows students from outside the district to attend. That means the Southern Hunt kid passed 4 or 5 districts where his parents could have paid to send their child. 1 of which BG just geat in the D6 finals. I do not know why they chose BG, but maybe if any of those schools were more appealing they certainly COULD have sent him their. I believe the playing field is more even than people want to believe.

If my geography is accurate this one player could have went to Mt Union, Huntingdon, Juniata Valley, Williamsburg and maybe even Hollidaysburg all shorter drive than BG. Good for him and his parents if that’s what he wanted. But your kind of proving my point. It’s easier for him red tape wise to go to BG. And furthermore that’s ONE kid. My point was the kids who live in Altoona and Hollidaysburg have no real issue going to BG. So again, a 6A and 5A District supplying kids. As I said.. have at it. I don’t dislike BG. If I were then I’d go right along doing what I do…. BUT it isn’t an even playing field and it’s an issue I think the PIAA needs to look at. That’s all I’m saying….

[Hangman]

The 3 new names on their roster you speak of were natural break transfers, which mean they transferred after 8 th grade prior to 9th

Isn’t that really the point though? I don’t think BG actively goes out and recruits anyone. That’s just ridiculous really…. The issue is that it’s simple for a “natural transfer” for kids from 6A Altoona SD and/or 5A Hollidaysburg SD etc to just change schools because it’s right in Blair county. Most Class A small schools don’t have that kind of draw. I don’t fault BG whatsoever… do the best you can under the rules. I blame the PIAA. If they can’t see that situation is apples and oranges to almost all small public schools and gives them a competitive advantage I don’t know what else to say…. Perhaps the PIAA simply doesn’t care? I’ll be rooting for BG tomorrow because it’s not the kids fault. They work hard…. As I said… it’s the PIAA’s fault for not addressing these situations (and let’s be honest.. we talk about BG because of the success and location here but this goes on statewide and needs fixed)

It's not just a PIAA issue... it's a BGU is exploiting the rules issue. By numbers are they a 1A school? Maybe (let's not rule out them fudging numbers). PIAA could also fix this by only allowing private school to use players who have been in their system since at least 7th grade, if you transfer for your valued private/religious school education athletics shouldn't matter anyway, and forcing all private schools to compete at the 6A level in the postseason.

I feel terrible for all the 1A schools they have absolutely stolen a district and state championship from over the years. Good luck to Redbank Valley on Thursday. They deserve this and BGU does not.

[upnorth]

The 3 new names on their roster you speak of were natural break transfers, which mean they transferred after 8 th grade prior to 9th

Isn’t that really the point though? I don’t think BG actively goes out and recruits anyone. That’s just ridiculous really…. The issue is that it’s simple for a “natural transfer” for kids from 6A Altoona SD and/or 5A Hollidaysburg SD etc to just change schools because it’s right in Blair county. Most Class A small schools don’t have that kind of draw. I don’t fault BG whatsoever… do the best you can under the rules. I blame the PIAA. If they can’t see that situation is apples and oranges to almost all small public schools and gives them a competitive advantage I don’t know what else to say…. Perhaps the PIAA simply doesn’t care? I’ll be rooting for BG tomorrow because it’s not the kids fault. They work hard…. As I said… it’s the PIAA’s fault for not addressing these situations (and let’s be honest.. we talk about BG because of the success and location here but this goes on statewide and needs fixed)

It's not just a PIAA issue... it's a BGU is exploiting the rules issue. By numbers are they a 1A school? Maybe (let's not rule out them fudging numbers). PIAA could also fix this by only allowing private school to use players who have been in their system since at least 7th grade, if you transfer for your valued private/religious school education athletics shouldn't matter anyway, and forcing all private schools to compete at the 6A level in the postseason.

I feel terrible for all the 1A schools they have absolutely stolen a district and state championship from over the years. Good luck to Redbank Valley on Thursday. They deserve this and BGU does not.

Fudging numbers? Yep, you got it. BG is low-balling their numbers to the Pennsylvania Department of Education and the PIAA so they can play single-A football. Get real.

What happens when the vo-tech rule hits in earnest and current AA and possibly some AAA teams drop a classification or two? Who is gaming the system then?

[Colonel Mustard]

The 'guru' hit the nail on the head. Even if active recruiting isn't taking place, the system is set up to make transfers easier for the private schools. I believe public school tuition would be considerably higher and I don't believe that there are scholarships and aid available like at the privates.

McCort's QB and best player played for Richland in 9th grade. No chance he would have played QB there the past 2 years. So he goes to McCort. Did someone from BM recruit him, or at least reach-out, probably??? But the point is it was much easier and cheaper for him to go there than say, CV or Windber. The privates do have an advantage. Bumping them up a class seems like a no-brainer.

[CCDevil2012]

The 'guru' hit the nail on the head. Even if active recruiting isn't taking place, the system is set up to make transfers easier for the private schools. I believe public school tuition would be considerably higher and I don't believe that there are scholarships and aid available like at the privates.

McCort's QB and best player played for Richland in 9th grade. No chance he would have played QB there the past 2 years. So he goes to McCort. Did someone from BM recruit him, or at least reach-out, probably??? But the point is it was much easier and cheaper for him to go there than say, CV or Windber. The privates do have an advantage. Bumping them up a class seems like a no-brainer.

And, he lives in Ebensburg. Heck of a commute.

[JTMcMahonLV]

Get up and get excited!!! It’s almost time for Altoona U, I mean Bishop Guifoyle, to win another state title!