Bush has a higher IQ than Kerry

[foghorn]

Now younz kids play nice.

[LionPride]

flea - we've given you plenty of reasons of why Iraq was attacked. You just refuse to open your mind and listen.

proxy - you wouldn't be working for that company owned by Lex would you?

[southpaw]

No hard feeling proxy, I enjoy your posts. I absolutely agree with the Wal-Mart remark. Wal-Mart has violated every anti-trust law and nobody in the gov't will do anything about it. More than anybody else Wal-Mart is responsible for the lose manufacturing jobs in the US.

BTW saying some acts zealous is the same as calling someone a zealot in my book

Flea: If I buy your argument then since the Nazis weren't a threat to us then we shouldn't have fought them in WW II. Your agrument doesn't hold water. Did you support Clintons war in Kosovo. The Serbs were no threat to us. The first Gulf War? Korea?

[southpaw]

Foggy: its yunz!

[once a runner]

Southpaw,

by your logic of "saying some acts zealous is the same as calling someone a zealot in my book", then someone who says stupid things must be stupid, right?

Then what can we conclude from someone who uses "statergy" or "hears rumors on the internets" ?

[fleaflicker]

Right, just because I don't buy every word the President says I won't open my mind. We went over there for weapons of mass destruction that we thought were threatening to us. We found none, just a few weapons labs that were hardly put together. And if there were any weapons of mass destruction, we gave them to Iraq in the 1980s while they were fighting Iran. We went over there to free the Iraqis. Right, now let's go free the Chinese, the Russians, the Saudis, and every other country that oppresses its people. BTW, there's a long list of American allies that oppress their peasants.
We went over there because they harbored terrorists. Right, and most of the people on those flights came from Saudi Arabia. What about Pakistan and Jordon, and the entire rest of the Middle East? If we went there just for terrorists, shouldn't we have invaded all those other countries as well? Also, if we were so concerned about terrorists, why didn't we keep the bin Laden family in the United States at a secure, undisclosed location, and question them about their wayward relative before we let them go back into the Middle East. We neglected a source of intelligence that could have been very valuable.

And by the way, many of our soldiers over there are reserve troops, who are, according to the foxnews and msn news articles that I posted earlier in this forum, driving around broken down trucks that are unarmored. And this is going on in the most dangerous routes in Iraq. So why are we sending these young men and women into a deathtrap? There are countries with more terrorists, there are countries that are more oppressive, and North Korea has developed nuclear capabilities. Could this be (gasp!) daddy's war?

[LionPride]

So if you trully believe everything you just posted, then why in the world do you give John Kerry a pass on his vote for the war - after he saw the same intel President Bush did. Actually, maybe he didn't see it all. He did miss quite a few Senate Intelligence meetings....... something like 80% of them. But it's ok for him to say Saddam is a threat, and Saddam has weapons, then back away from it all.

[fleaflicker]

The key difference is that John Kerry is willing to admit that his decision, based on the intelligence gathered at the time, was off, and George Bush is not willing to admit to any possible mistakes he made during his presidency. I'm sorry, but I don't see a perfect President up there, in fact, the guy I see is far from perfect, and he'd gain a few points if he were willing to admit it.

[LionPride]

Please show me where John Kerry admitted that he was wrong? In fact, just the opposite is true. When asked if he would vote the same way again, he said yes. He knows it was the right thing to do, but because the political winds were blowing in the direction of "anti-war" when Dean was kicking his butt in the primaries, he changed his platform.

So if you are supporting Kerry because he admitted he was wrong, than you may want to rethink that position because it didn't happen.

[fleaflicker]

Well, he hasn't directly stated it, but he is against the war that he voted for, so wouldn't that kind of mean a change of mind? Whereas when a woman in the third debate asked Bush if he had made any mistakes, he couldn't think of any other than maybe a few fired appointees, that supposedly got fired for being skeptical about Iraq. A guy with a bunch of yes men around him isn't going to be very effective.