Changed his mind since the election

[RidgeDad]

What do you drive, RidgeDad? I'm willing to bet it's a truck that gets 10 miles to the gallon. Protection guns? Really? What is a protection gun? How many people do you know that has had to use a gun for protection?

Ok - this is getting stupid.

First off, I drive a car that gets 25 MPG. How much was that bet worth?

Second - the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution affords me the RIGHT to own and carry firearms. It is very clear. There is no ambiguity. Yet, the kool aid you drink has been spiked with something to make you think that just because I've never pulled my gun on someone for protection or that owning a semi-auto makes me less of a hunter, that it's ok for a ban on those weapons. No it is not. I have the right to bear arms. Not the right to bear only single shot, manual action arms. Why can't you see that once you need to use this right for protection of life or property, it's too late if it's not available to you.

Third - A protection weapon is anything that you have available to you. I have my eye on a Glock .45 that I'll be purchasing very soon. Maybe a 9mm. Great weapons and a favorite for law enforcement. Guess what - they're semi auto's.

Dude, I seriously hope you're in the minority, because if not, we're in serious trouble. I strongly encourage you to study Hitler. You are no different than a Hitler Youth - not that you are an anti-Semite, but that you are being bamboozled.

[deliverance]

I form my own opinions unlike you guys. You read articles that are biased and put so much crap in your head that it's not even funny. You just compared me to Hitler. Seriously, that's sad.

[southpaw]

What is sad son is your attitude. You get defensive when challenged and resort to ridicule and belittlement. Some day hopefully you'll be able to take those blinders off and get the big picture.

[RidgeDad]

You just compared me to Hitler. Seriously, that's sad.

No, I did not. Read it again. I compared you to a group of people that were bamboozled, just like I think is happening to now.

If you took that as a comparison to Hitler - I tried to be obvious that I wasn't - then I apologize. That was not my intent. My intent was to show that there was a large group of young people that 70 years ago believed everything that came from their leaders mouth. They were bamboozled. I didn't live back then, but I've studied it. And the comparisons to what's going on now are amazing.

If anything, I compared Obama to Hitler. Both were great public speakers. Both had the ability to generate tons of followers, who followed them blindly. Both favored socialist policies that put more power to the government, and less to the people. That's what scares us.

So again. I apologize for you mistaking my intent. I guess I wasn't clear. If I think you're anything, it's naive.

[once a runner]

Just because Obama has been able to attract a public following with his eloquence like Hitler doesn't mean the results are going to be the same. Such logic is flawed at best and outright foolish at worst. Obama has a lot in common with Lincoln as well, does that mean he is going to turn out like him? History will judge whether or not the democrats were "bamboozled" by this guy. He may turn out to be another Carter for all I know. I believe and hope that he will do more positive than he does negative just as some conservatives believe he will make things far worse.

One thing we do know, those who backed GWB were bamboozled. If I supported that guy I don't think I would be so quick to judge the next guy even before he has had the opportunity to actually work as the president.

As far as the gun debate ....I haven't seen anyone argue against "the right to bear arms". The types of weapons available today were not around, or even imaginable, in the days of the founding fathers. Is it legal to carry around grenades and bazooka's? How about suitcase nukes? Are they OK? The only thing that is being argued is where you draw the line in what type of weapons are allowable.

Not being a hunter, or even a gun owner, I don't know why you need a semi-automatic weapon to hunt. Perhaps someone who does hunt could explain that one. Certainly people have the right to protect their property and their loved ones. There are undoubtedly stories where people have successfully protected their family because of guns they had in the house. There are also stories of people being accidentally shot from guns being in the house. Obviously a responsible person will keep the weapons locked up. However, those weapons aren't easily accessible if an intruder comes in the house.

I certainly don't believe the democrats are trying to take away guns from the people so they can completely control the country. In my opinion, that borders on paranoia. Obama may have won by a comfortable margin, but he could easily be voted out next time if he tackles too many controversial topics like guns. I imagine any changes in the law will be minor. Politics in this country is cyclical and any changes that one party makes could easily be changed back the next time there is a reversal in the political majority.

[deliverance]

Great points, OAR.

southpaw, what is the big picture? Tell me all about it. I always forget about your expertise on everything. You know all about my attitude and you don't even have a clue who I am. However, if I agreed with you on all your points, I would be so intelligent and have a great attitude. Maybe you don't like to be challenged?

[southpaw]

I form my own opinions unlike you guys. You read articles that are biased and put so much crap in your head that it's not even funny. You just compared me to Hitler. Seriously, that's sad.

This post said that you think I don't form my own opinions and you do. Who sounds like the all knowing?

OAR great post! There is still hope for you! I'm glad that hopefully you judge Obama in his actions and deeds and not his tele-prompter speeches. One question, will there be a tele-prompter at the inauguration? BTW OAR I think there is nothing wrong with owning a semi-auto shotgun or hand gun. Automatic weapons? It is debatable. I

[southpaw]

Deliverance, you want to know how I form my opinions? Purely from a libertarian stance. I believe that gov't is the problem and the less gov't is involved directly or indirectly in my life the better. You want to know why we are facing a financial crisis? The gov't, Bush, Congress, Dems, Reps, etc. They are the problem. I don't like Obama because there is every indication that he will increase gov't role in everything and that is not good in my opinion.

[deliverance]

southpaw, the man has done nothing, yet. I agree he can't be judged right now or even any time soon. A friend of mine just bought an assault rifle today from East Coast Gun Sales. They told him they have sold 20 since Obama was elected. Now that's scary. This is the only thing I am afraid of with these types of guns. We have all seen terrible things happen. As long as a responsible person owns them and keeps them locked, we don't have worries.

[southpaw]

southpaw, the man has done nothing, yet. I agree he can't be judged right now or even any time soon. A friend of mine just bought an assault rifle today from East Coast Gun Sales. They told him they have sold 20 since Obama was elected. Now that's scary. This is the only thing I am afraid of with these types of guns. We have all seen terrible things happen. As long as a responsible person owns them and keeps them locked, we don't have worries.

You said it. He hasn't done anything yet! All I have to go was his tele-prompter stump speech. So you tell me.