Chestnut Ridge Opens all Fall and Winter coaching positions

[gogators]

M.K. is who I was talkin bout

[OldschoolCRHS]

Well lots of interesting comments. (Especially from Tray and MasterZ) Here are some more for you to chew on. I have on a good source that Wilkens has applied to 5 or 6 other jobs in the last 3 years. So I say why not look elsewhere. Shoud CR wait around and have a last minute selection like they had when Walters left them high and dry in late June when he left for PC? Wilkens has done a great job the last couple years but I look deeper and think against what? I ask this to the stat man Tray the 36 wins you talk about how many of them are against a team with a winning record or a AA team?

[wallpaper]

Well, I guess if all these comments about CR's schedule and Wilkins not going far in the playoffs is valid, then Demarco from Windber should also be under the gun. His schedule is far from difficult and with all those undefeated seasons how far has Windber gone in the playoffs????

[OldschoolCRHS]

DeMarco vs. Wilkins. Wallpaper you are nuts. I believe Windber has been to quaterfinals a couple times. Schedule is not hard for Windber? At least they are Single A vs Single A. Here you think this is a fair matchup Ridge vs. Claysburg? Ridge graduating class 130 vs Claysburg 60 hmmm not very fair Oh how about another one Ridge(130) vs. Williamsburg(45) man that is a equal matchup. Tell me where there is a matchup like that on Windber's schedule.

[usatf oldguy]

Let me first say I am neither for or against DW.I however will say this for CR sports schedule.Every sport plays pretty much the same teams.Not every sport wins consistently at CR.Alot of the "A" teams CR plays are pretty good.If records are the reason for some one losing there job alot of coaches would be in hot water.You also have to factor in the number of fall sports(4) that male atheletes can participate in into the puzzle when figuring if CR is drastically bigger than some of these"A" schools.I know for fact alot of these "A" schools only fall sport is football.

[wallpaper]

DeMarco vs. Wilkins. Wallpaper you are nuts. I believe Windber has been to quaterfinals a couple times. Schedule is not hard for Windber? At least they are Single A vs Single A. Here you think this is a fair matchup Ridge vs. Claysburg? Ridge graduating class 130 vs Claysburg 60 hmmm not very fair Oh how about another one Ridge(130) vs. Williamsburg(45) man that is a equal matchup. Tell me where there is a matchup like that on Windber's schedule.

Windber is very close to being AA and if you remember correctly they too were in the conference which eventually became LHAC and opted out. I don't see their faithful ripping on Demarco and their schedule like you are.

[TRAY]

For Oldschool -- I won't pretend to tell you that beating Williamsburg is a quality win. I have already admitted that the LHC is a much better league than the ICC. I would call wins over Bedford twice and Bellwood in the last two years good wins. I would have to go research the Ridge schedule for the last 5 years to see who else they played. Granted that some wins were against bad teams, but everybody has bad teams on their schedule.

Let me ask this question to everyone. What games that Ridge lost in the last 5-6 years were what you would call "bad losses." A bad loss to me is losing to team that you should beat a vast majority of the time. Not games where the talent is pretty equal and it could go either way. A good coach can help win a lot of those games, but not all of them, sometimes things just don't go your way.


Also, the 10-0 Bedford team I was referring to that lost in the first round was in 97 or 98 and they lost to 8th seeded Westmont. I am pretty sure Shoemaker was coaching Bedford then.

[RidgeDad]

I would call wins over Bedford twice and Bellwood in the last two years good wins.

Did you watch the Bedford game last year? To call that a quality win is a joke. That was not a typical Bedford team - they were VERY down last year. How many turnovers did Bedford have in that game - 6? I don't think it's a stretch to say that Bedford was the 4th best team in the COUNTY last year, behind NBC, CR, and TM.

I will give you that the win over Bedford 2 years ago and last years win over Bellwood were quality, although the argument could be made that both those squads were down too. I won't argue that though and I'll concede those wins as being quality.

Most people here are not arguing the fact that Wilkins has improved the program. But I'll ask again - to what level? Are you satisfied with an above .500 record and an early exit from the playoffs?

Either way, if Wilkins is not the coach next year, it's probably the best for him anyway. It appears that Ridge is going to have a few down years coming up, and that will give all you Wilkins supporters ammunition if he isn't there next year.

[TRAY]

Most people here are not arguing the fact that Wilkins has improved the program. But I'll ask again - to what level? Are you satisfied with an above .500 record and an early exit from the playoffs?

Now that is an excellent question. I don't think as a competive person you can ever be satisfied. Do you think coach Wilkins and his staff are satisfied with losing in the first round of the playoffs? I would think not. At what level of success would people in Fishertown be happy? If they were to win one playoff game, there would be people complaining, why not two, if two then why not a district championship, why not a state championship? Those things are very difficult to accomplish. If you can admit the program is improving then maybe they are on the right track, and we should allow the program to improve.

[TheAnalyst]

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but the only time I remember Bedford losing to Westmont in the playoffs during the 97-98 time period, or anytime for that matter, Bedford was the #1 seed being 10-0 and Westmont was the #4 (I think) seed at 10-0. It was a very close, hard-fought semi-final game. The AA bracket was loaded that year with undefeated/one loss teams. A few years later, around 2000, another undefeated Bedford team lost to an undefeated Bellwood team in 2OT in the semifinals.