Do Private schools have an athletic edge?
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Re: Do Private schools have an athletic edge?
Vman, your logic skills are really lacking. Using one school as an example that supports your cause does not prove your argument. Even if BM only pulls in 1 kid that helps them athletically, that is an advantage and disproves your point. Also stating that students who participate in athletics are more likely to come from well to do families is not that same as saying that students from well to do families mostly participate in athletics. I realize that there are many BM students who go there for the education and not the athletics. That does not mean that others do not go there for the athletics.
You also stated that only one Ligonier student has helped BM athletically. You also said that there was only 1 from Somerset. Maybe there was only one from North Star and maybe a couple of Conemaugh Township and then there was maybe 1 from Johnstown, etc. etc. If you get only 1 student from just a few districts, that can make a major difference in the type of team you have. That is an advantage for private schools. For every kid you get from a public school, that does not only improve your team, but it diminishes the competition from the other school.
One last thing, how is playing AA hurting BM? Didn't they have Class A numbers, but elected to play AA during this last cycle? Why would they volunteer to play up a class if hurts them?
You also stated that only one Ligonier student has helped BM athletically. You also said that there was only 1 from Somerset. Maybe there was only one from North Star and maybe a couple of Conemaugh Township and then there was maybe 1 from Johnstown, etc. etc. If you get only 1 student from just a few districts, that can make a major difference in the type of team you have. That is an advantage for private schools. For every kid you get from a public school, that does not only improve your team, but it diminishes the competition from the other school.
One last thing, how is playing AA hurting BM? Didn't they have Class A numbers, but elected to play AA during this last cycle? Why would they volunteer to play up a class if hurts them?
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Re: Do Private schools have an athletic edge?
Higher Road big guy...
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Re: Do Private schools have an athletic edge?
And now they no longer take the higher road? Vman said taking in extra students "hurts" them because it forces them to play up to AA. I don't see how that makes any sense since they volunteered to play AA.
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Re: Do Private schools have an athletic edge?
Yes private schools have the athletic edge. Public schools give them the edge because they feel bad that the privates have to dress up just to learn and also have to attend church during school..
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Wow, you continue to lower my oppinion of you lakers!
Heaven forbid we try to teach young adults the importance of a community (1 advantage to a dress code) but also build a strong Religious rock for them to build on in their lives!
That has to do with private schools having an athletic edge?!lakersfan24 wrote: Public schools give them the edge because they feel bad that the privates have to dress up just to learn and also have to attend church during school..
Heaven forbid we try to teach young adults the importance of a community (1 advantage to a dress code) but also build a strong Religious rock for them to build on in their lives!
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Re: Do Private schools have an athletic edge?
DWG, lighten up.. it was a joke..
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Re: Do Private schools have an athletic edge?
Lets just say BM runs a perfectly clean program.I believe that we are talking about all private schools here not just BM.The facts are that private schools win alot more than their share of state titles in team sports.Compare the percentage of public to private schools in the state.That ratio won't be close to the state title ratio,especially not in A and AA.END OF STORY.Privates have an edge own up to it!
Re: Do Private schools have an athletic edge?
My logic skills may be somewhat lacking but I'm not catching the liberal spin here??once a runner wrote:Vman, your logic skills are really lacking. Also stating that students who participate in athletics are more likely to come from well to do families is not that same as saying that students from well to do families mostly participate in athletics.
You said this:
And I gave 3 separate examples of kids coming from different areas, outside of greater Jtwn, and we can assume they are from "well to do" families & these 'pockets' of BM students traditionally are way more academic successful/involved than they are athletic!once a runner wrote:I agree with Voncap's observations. I think what he was trying to say is that kids are more likely to participate in sports if they are families from a higher socioeconomic status. Of course there are exceptions, but in general this rule seems to apply. Therefore, it is likely that a private school will get more kids to participate because they are generally from families who are fairly well off financially. To have an extra $5,000 per child per year usually means you are not on the poverty line. The more kids that participate leads to greater competition, a greater chance of finding a superstar athlete and ultimately more success.
And I think you have listed another misconception/stereotype a couple of times now! YOU GROSSLY UNDERESTIMATE THE NUMBER OF KIDS & FAMILIES THAT MAKE HUGE SACRIFICES TO SEND THEIR CHILDREN TO CATHOLIC SCHOOLS...I KNOW OF SEVERAL SINGLE MOTHERS & LOW INCOME FAMILIES THAT WORK EXTRA JOBS & ARE ON PAYMENT PLANS; I ALSO KNOW OF STUDENTS THAT WORK IN THE SUMMER TO HELP PAY TUITION!! CONVERSELY, THERE ARE SEVERAL FAMILIES WITH THE FINANCIAL MEANS TO CHOOSE McCORT BUT TAKE THE EASY WAY OUT & DO NOT SACRIFICE THEIR $ ON THEIR CHILDREN ( not judging their choice however...just stating fact)
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Re: Do Private schools have an athletic edge?
Vman are you implying that fathers and mothers should send their kids to Bishop McCort if they have the cash too? What about the kids who have money and still get scholarships i mean financial aid at Bishop McCort? Why would these people(not old time McCort families) waste their money(20000) when they can send their kids to for example the fine school district of Westy or the brand new Richland? Might I add there are some mighty fine catechusim opportunities these days.
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Re: Do Private schools have an athletic edge?
Here's something to change it up a bit:
I just found out today that Jacob Librizzi (formerly of Bishop Guilfoyle) is transferring from St. Francis to PSU--his reason for doing so is that he "lives in State College, and has lived there his entire life!"...B.G.'s best athlete, that carried their football and track teams, didn't even live in the general Altoona Area. He had to be recruited in some way, shape, or form to make the daily trip to Altoona. Is that fair? For the kids, yes, they can do what they choose...but do public schools ever get the opportunity to real in a top-notch athlete that lives almost an hour away from their school district? I don't think so. I'm still a firm believer that the athletes determine the success of a team, but I just thought I'd point this out. It's not just BM that has the capability to do this. It's all private schools.
I just found out today that Jacob Librizzi (formerly of Bishop Guilfoyle) is transferring from St. Francis to PSU--his reason for doing so is that he "lives in State College, and has lived there his entire life!"...B.G.'s best athlete, that carried their football and track teams, didn't even live in the general Altoona Area. He had to be recruited in some way, shape, or form to make the daily trip to Altoona. Is that fair? For the kids, yes, they can do what they choose...but do public schools ever get the opportunity to real in a top-notch athlete that lives almost an hour away from their school district? I don't think so. I'm still a firm believer that the athletes determine the success of a team, but I just thought I'd point this out. It's not just BM that has the capability to do this. It's all private schools.
