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(Had Joe PA gone to board of trustees with this evidence)konjo78 wrote:Like i said before.... he actually reported the incident to campus police, his superiours. But those facts get driven down because it doesnt make good news headlines.
And he couldnt kick JS out because board of trustees gave him keys to everything
Board of Trustees: "HEY! JERRY! What's you're doing is wrong. GIVE ME THE KEYS NOW!"
That was difficult.
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So you're saying Joe should have gone to the very entity that fired him for no reason..lol...what don't you people understand about joe reporting the incident to the people he was supposed to report to...I will also add that Joe DID in fact follow up with Curley and Schultz also. It's all out there for you to find. I really don't know what you expected him to do...he had a 2nd hand description of something he was unsure of, notified who he should have, then followed up. He trusted that curley and schultz did what was needed. And for the 100th time he could demand nothing of JS because JS was not his employee. You also don't go to the BoT with a complaint/demand. That's just silly....you guys are really stretching what you believe he should have done. and Peyton...WHAT EVIDENCE? There was none. only a statement from someone. Why do you guys always keep overlooking the fact that if it was SO bad then why did he wait overnight, not get involved immediately, nor did his dad or Dranov, a DR, go to police????
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Evidence of several people telling him JS was molesting boys. Even if you don't have hard proof (which for some reason you want....kind of make me question you as a person TBH. Given the nature of the allegations you'd think you'd get rid of him UNTIL you found them to be UNTRUE, not he other way around ) that would be grounds to turn in any keys.billmurray wrote:So you're saying Joe should have gone to the very entity that fired him for no reason..lol...what don't you people understand about joe reporting the incident to the people he was supposed to report to...I will also add that Joe DID in fact follow up with Curley and Schultz also. It's all out there for you to find. I really don't know what you expected him to do...he had a 2nd hand description of something he was unsure of, notified who he should have, then followed up. He trusted that curley and schultz did what was needed. And for the 100th time he could demand nothing of JS because JS was not his employee. You also don't go to the BoT with a complaint/demand. That's just silly....you guys are really stretching what you believe he should have done. and Peyton...WHAT EVIDENCE? There was none. only a statement from someone. Why do you guys always keep overlooking the fact that if it was SO bad then why did he wait overnight, not get involved immediately, nor did his dad or Dranov, a DR, go to police????
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Benson and Stabler would've had him arrested.
If only closed minds came with closed mouths
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Finn would have said cool smart **** remarks while Amaro would beat the hell out of JS. Look like an open and shut case to Barba to me. Maybe a two part special, but no way would this be a cliff hanger for a season finale.12HankQB wrote:Benson and Stabler would've had him arrested.
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Several? now several people told him? lol..ONE told him, MM...and again...Joe DID have him banned from bringing in kids even before MM..what don't you understand about Joe not being able to demand anything of someone who didn't work for him? As for you questioning me as a person....don't go there. Keep it civil.peytonsaturday wrote:Evidence of several people telling him JS was molesting boys. Even if you don't have hard proof (which for some reason you want....kind of make me question you as a person TBH. Given the nature of the allegations you'd think you'd get rid of him UNTIL you found them to be UNTRUE, not he other way around ) that would be grounds to turn in any keys.billmurray wrote:So you're saying Joe should have gone to the very entity that fired him for no reason..lol...what don't you people understand about joe reporting the incident to the people he was supposed to report to...I will also add that Joe DID in fact follow up with Curley and Schultz also. It's all out there for you to find. I really don't know what you expected him to do...he had a 2nd hand description of something he was unsure of, notified who he should have, then followed up. He trusted that curley and schultz did what was needed. And for the 100th time he could demand nothing of JS because JS was not his employee. You also don't go to the BoT with a complaint/demand. That's just silly....you guys are really stretching what you believe he should have done. and Peyton...WHAT EVIDENCE? There was none. only a statement from someone. Why do you guys always keep overlooking the fact that if it was SO bad then why did he wait overnight, not get involved immediately, nor did his dad or Dranov, a DR, go to police????
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See they think several because the news reports that as headlines when claims first get made...
They never actually follow up themselves to find out those claims are false. Its funny they try saying joe didnt follow up, but because they dont do it they have 0 knowledge of facts. Espicially that he did follow up:) ironic isnt it?
They never actually follow up themselves to find out those claims are false. Its funny they try saying joe didnt follow up, but because they dont do it they have 0 knowledge of facts. Espicially that he did follow up:) ironic isnt it?
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This opinions people have developed regarding over this story will never change but believe it or not most people that live outside of the western PA region of the country feel that Joe was railroaded on this one.
Below are just some of the things that bother from the case beyond what Jerry or anyone else at Penn State did:
Why has society lost any objectivity to the information that the media reports? The media abuses this and has resulted in absolutely awful reporting. In this case rumors were reported as facts, facts we omitted, and most of the headlines used were nothing more than "click bait."
The judicial system is a fiasco. It took a dozen years to prepare an indictment but a trial of this importance was over 6 months later. There are contradictions in testimony, misspelling in important trial preparation forms, and there is absolutely no way enough time was provided to prepare a defense. Jerry is most likely guilty of most of his counts but that was a disaster. Let's not even mention the political corruption by Corbett in suspending the investigation during his run for governor only to put all his prosecutors back on the case after Spanier campaigned hard against his budget.
For so many Pitt fans, 11/5/2011 was one of the greatest days of their life. They try to not make it so obviously but just look at this board. Could it be any more obvious?
Below are just some of the things that bother from the case beyond what Jerry or anyone else at Penn State did:
Why has society lost any objectivity to the information that the media reports? The media abuses this and has resulted in absolutely awful reporting. In this case rumors were reported as facts, facts we omitted, and most of the headlines used were nothing more than "click bait."
The judicial system is a fiasco. It took a dozen years to prepare an indictment but a trial of this importance was over 6 months later. There are contradictions in testimony, misspelling in important trial preparation forms, and there is absolutely no way enough time was provided to prepare a defense. Jerry is most likely guilty of most of his counts but that was a disaster. Let's not even mention the political corruption by Corbett in suspending the investigation during his run for governor only to put all his prosecutors back on the case after Spanier campaigned hard against his budget.
For so many Pitt fans, 11/5/2011 was one of the greatest days of their life. They try to not make it so obviously but just look at this board. Could it be any more obvious?
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I do not get into these discussions very much anymore mainly because those associated with Penn State football at that time are either dead or awaiting trial. If guilty, they will await a greater trial after death and may already being doing so. With all that said, I think these latest accusations have so many holes that it's not even worth discussing until actual evidence exists and not a crazy man in state college(who claims he loved Joepa until 2011 yet knew about this for 40 years). When there is money to be grabbed or people with agendas towards someone, all the crazies come out. See WPIALTITAN
As for Pitt fans, abpk could not be more correct. If Pitt fans were given the choice of this never happening or Joe Paterno being to blame and helping Pitt football, they would take the latter each and every time. That, my friends, is a culture problem with football. If you preach cult, yet celebrate what is happening and have your entire messageboard infested with Penn State scandal stuff with much of it making jokes about child rape....YOU have a culture problem.
As for Pitt fans, abpk could not be more correct. If Pitt fans were given the choice of this never happening or Joe Paterno being to blame and helping Pitt football, they would take the latter each and every time. That, my friends, is a culture problem with football. If you preach cult, yet celebrate what is happening and have your entire messageboard infested with Penn State scandal stuff with much of it making jokes about child rape....YOU have a culture problem.
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I just can't see why Bill Murray is still so hung up on a defense here. We know they are all guilty of not doing more. They all knew what this would mean for the reputation of the University and their careers. Instead all these kids endured something that they shouldn't have had to. I love football, but come on here, even the statement that Joe had him banned before the whistle blower, that says they knew and that they also knew that nothing was done about it. Then you have JS who not only played with boys, had people donate money through charity to feed his habit. This isn't about football or someone reputation. They all will have their day and I'm not talking about court.
If the Paterno's had respect like they are seeking so much, they wouldn't continue this fight. They would let it drop, and allow it to be over for the victim's in the case. If they wouldn't be pressed to prove the innocence of St Joe this would be all behind us and out of the news. Were not done here, lots of old secrets tend to be exposed to the public recently. I do believe the claim. Sexual predators don't change and they don't suddenly get an appetite. I applaud those who came forward to stop this piece of garbage and the Good Ol Boys club at PSU.
If the Paterno's had respect like they are seeking so much, they wouldn't continue this fight. They would let it drop, and allow it to be over for the victim's in the case. If they wouldn't be pressed to prove the innocence of St Joe this would be all behind us and out of the news. Were not done here, lots of old secrets tend to be exposed to the public recently. I do believe the claim. Sexual predators don't change and they don't suddenly get an appetite. I applaud those who came forward to stop this piece of garbage and the Good Ol Boys club at PSU.
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