Summer workouts, what teams/coaches are doing?
I love this paragraph, Dawg:
"Well where does the blame lie? The school board ultimately. They hire a superintendent who hires an AD who is responsible for organizing and managing the program. In some cases the AD is a tired old frustrated individual void of any energy and new ideas. And no motivation to make any changes for fear it will require more work."
This will endear you to a lot of people, but there's an element of truth in what you've said. Still, most coaches have considerable egos -- especially the good ones -- and hate to defer to others. What's a kid to do unless it's concentrate on one sport, which can be a tragedy in itself? Like a few people have said, I'll take the multi-sport guys anytime. Plus I've seen too many players concentrate on just one sport and go nowhere.
"Well where does the blame lie? The school board ultimately. They hire a superintendent who hires an AD who is responsible for organizing and managing the program. In some cases the AD is a tired old frustrated individual void of any energy and new ideas. And no motivation to make any changes for fear it will require more work."
This will endear you to a lot of people, but there's an element of truth in what you've said. Still, most coaches have considerable egos -- especially the good ones -- and hate to defer to others. What's a kid to do unless it's concentrate on one sport, which can be a tragedy in itself? Like a few people have said, I'll take the multi-sport guys anytime. Plus I've seen too many players concentrate on just one sport and go nowhere.
"Talk low, talk slow, and don't talk too much."
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summer workouts
Matt Bimeal of CT only played baseball the last years of his high school career. Rick Roberts of FH did the same. Both are in the minors right now, Bimeal with the Pirates, Roberts with the Dodgers. One sport athletes who have gone somewhere, at least for now. I'm sure there are many others who stuck to one sport and done well. Somerset is known for it's baseball players who do NO other sports.
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There's not much a multi-sport kid can do except give it his best effort and hope that his/her coach will cooperate. And have flexible parents!
My kid plays football, basketball, and baseball. He decided not to play teener league this summer so he could concentrate on the football demands, go to a few basketball camps and play in a basketball league the HS team is on, and still actually work some and take a vacation. The problem is baseball is being slighted, which in reality might be his best sport, though he likes basketball the best.
He's also likes to do non-sport things with his friends -- imagine that. If he were to devote major quality time to each sport, he wouldn't have time to do anything else. Now that's a sure road to burn out.
My kid plays football, basketball, and baseball. He decided not to play teener league this summer so he could concentrate on the football demands, go to a few basketball camps and play in a basketball league the HS team is on, and still actually work some and take a vacation. The problem is baseball is being slighted, which in reality might be his best sport, though he likes basketball the best.
He's also likes to do non-sport things with his friends -- imagine that. If he were to devote major quality time to each sport, he wouldn't have time to do anything else. Now that's a sure road to burn out.
"Talk low, talk slow, and don't talk too much."
-- John Wayne
-- John Wayne
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In response to LionDawg's quote: "Well where does the blame lie? The school board ultimately. They hire a superintendent who hires an AD who is responsible for organizing and managing the program. In some cases the AD is a tired old frustrated individual void of any energy and new ideas. And no motivation to make any changes for fear it will require more work."
I can pinpoint a few places where this may be true but I can speak for the all-sports league and AD's I work with , the Sideling Hill League, and state that this is for the most part a very energetic, enthusiastic, innovative and idea-filled group who I am proud to work with. More things have happened in our league in the past 5-6 years than any league in the state. We now have all-star teams, media photo ops, A rotational schedule in Soccer, Basketball, Volleyball, Baseball, and Softball that is all encompassing and caters to individual school needs, we've started a league track meet attempted to align ourselves with the Juniata Valley league to form an SUPER Conference among the D5-6 small schools, etc. These AD's are full of ideas, communicate constantly, compare everything from ticket prices, coaching salaries, and budgets to coaches evaluations to interview procedures to information about available coaches to fill vacancies within our league, etc.,etc. For the most part the superintendents and principals realize the passion for HS Sports and knowledge that these AD's have and allow them to, within reason, call the shots for their schools.
Okay, I feel better now, I had to say that...otherwise, I'm enjoying reading this topic, lot's of good philosophical angles to this stuff...very interesting read. I can find lots of things in all posts that I agree with, and like in any other forum, a few more that I may disagree with but I can be open minded enough to see valid points nonetheless.
I can pinpoint a few places where this may be true but I can speak for the all-sports league and AD's I work with , the Sideling Hill League, and state that this is for the most part a very energetic, enthusiastic, innovative and idea-filled group who I am proud to work with. More things have happened in our league in the past 5-6 years than any league in the state. We now have all-star teams, media photo ops, A rotational schedule in Soccer, Basketball, Volleyball, Baseball, and Softball that is all encompassing and caters to individual school needs, we've started a league track meet attempted to align ourselves with the Juniata Valley league to form an SUPER Conference among the D5-6 small schools, etc. These AD's are full of ideas, communicate constantly, compare everything from ticket prices, coaching salaries, and budgets to coaches evaluations to interview procedures to information about available coaches to fill vacancies within our league, etc.,etc. For the most part the superintendents and principals realize the passion for HS Sports and knowledge that these AD's have and allow them to, within reason, call the shots for their schools.
Okay, I feel better now, I had to say that...otherwise, I'm enjoying reading this topic, lot's of good philosophical angles to this stuff...very interesting read. I can find lots of things in all posts that I agree with, and like in any other forum, a few more that I may disagree with but I can be open minded enough to see valid points nonetheless.
although I don't know the two you mentioned (I have heard of Roberts), I still believe that they probably had the talent to play other sports and still succeed in baseball...they made a decision...and it worked out well for them.....but I've seem many who tried that route and didn't truly have the talent...so they missed opportunities in high school that they'll never get back....
I want well-rounded...not specialists....I want competitors....who compete in a variety of arenas....
no solutions??? I fight the battle everyday as a coach and a teacher....are you??? and I am careful not to disparage those who put in the time....
I am simply stating an opinion...not slamming...
I want well-rounded...not specialists....I want competitors....who compete in a variety of arenas....
no solutions??? I fight the battle everyday as a coach and a teacher....are you??? and I am careful not to disparage those who put in the time....
I am simply stating an opinion...not slamming...
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That is good to hear HR. Your efforts are being rewarded as evidenced by the success SHL teams have been experiencing in the State Playoffs.
My question is this. Wouldnt the student athletes benefit from a well thought out coordinated multiple sports program. Currently in most Districts the head football coach, the basketball coach, and maybe the baseball coach all independently jockey and compete for each athletes time during the summer. Isnt there a way that the coaches could work together to create a more livable schedule? One that addresses the physical conditioning and development needs, the skill development, and social needs of each individual. Right now the responsibility is thrown at the feet of the student and their parents to decide what is potentially the best course of action.
My question is this. Wouldnt the student athletes benefit from a well thought out coordinated multiple sports program. Currently in most Districts the head football coach, the basketball coach, and maybe the baseball coach all independently jockey and compete for each athletes time during the summer. Isnt there a way that the coaches could work together to create a more livable schedule? One that addresses the physical conditioning and development needs, the skill development, and social needs of each individual. Right now the responsibility is thrown at the feet of the student and their parents to decide what is potentially the best course of action.
yes, student/athletes would benefit from a coordinated program...do I see it happening?? NO....coaches have some lives, so they have a schedule to work around...summer leagues don't really care about summer leagues in other sports....I don't see it ever happening....
now, if you can give us a school that does it, then we could see a model to work from....if we're just talking ideas that swirl in your mind, I see you presenting things without presenting the answers....
now, if you can give us a school that does it, then we could see a model to work from....if we're just talking ideas that swirl in your mind, I see you presenting things without presenting the answers....