Samuel Alito
Re: Samuel Alito
[quote="southpaw";p="108926"]This guy should have been the first pick! Not some Bush toady that has very little judical experience.[/quote]
Exactly. Alito should've been the first choice.
However, I heard an interesting take on this. Bear with me.
I have to believe that Bush is smart enough to know that Miers wasn't going to be confirmed. If he did know that, then there had to be a reason why he did it. Is it possible that he nominated her, knowing she wouldn't be confirmed, to possibly derail any future plans of a Democratic president to put Hitlary on the bench? Both have about the same qualifications for the Supreme Court - they are lawyers. Of course, one could use the arguement that Hitlary is a Senator, but does that alone give her the necessary qualifications for the highest court?
I'm not suggesting that I know this was the thought process. I'm just throwing this out for discussion.
Exactly. Alito should've been the first choice.
However, I heard an interesting take on this. Bear with me.
I have to believe that Bush is smart enough to know that Miers wasn't going to be confirmed. If he did know that, then there had to be a reason why he did it. Is it possible that he nominated her, knowing she wouldn't be confirmed, to possibly derail any future plans of a Democratic president to put Hitlary on the bench? Both have about the same qualifications for the Supreme Court - they are lawyers. Of course, one could use the arguement that Hitlary is a Senator, but does that alone give her the necessary qualifications for the highest court?
I'm not suggesting that I know this was the thought process. I'm just throwing this out for discussion.
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Re: Samuel Alito
That's a bunch of bullsh(!edit!)t and you know it LP. Bush picked Miers to try and stradle the fence and appease the moderates plain and simple. These outlandish explanations to try and deflect critcism just don't hold water!
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Re: Samuel Alito
[quote="southpaw";p="108943"]That's a bunch of bullsh!t and you know it LP. Bush picked Miers to try and stradle the fence and appease the moderates plain and simple. These outlandish explanations to try and deflect critcism just don't hold water![/quote]
Easy there Southy. You're going to get a yellow card if the mods see that one.
Look, no one was more ticked off more than me when he picked Miers. He broke a campaign promise when he did, and I left everyone I talked to know it. Heck, I wasn't even thrilled with Roberts because he is also relatively unknown, but Miers was just over the top.
Again, I didn't say I believed it. I said it was a theory presented to me, and I threw it out there for discussion. And that theory came from a moderate Republican that I work with.
Easy there Southy. You're going to get a yellow card if the mods see that one.
Look, no one was more ticked off more than me when he picked Miers. He broke a campaign promise when he did, and I left everyone I talked to know it. Heck, I wasn't even thrilled with Roberts because he is also relatively unknown, but Miers was just over the top.
Again, I didn't say I believed it. I said it was a theory presented to me, and I threw it out there for discussion. And that theory came from a moderate Republican that I work with.
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Re: Samuel Alito
LP what about the racist statements made by the libs and they get a free pass?
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Re: Samuel Alito
'Party trumps race' for Steele foes
By S.A. Miller
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
November 2, 2005
Black Democratic leaders in Maryland say that racially tinged attacks against Lt. Gov. Michael S. Steele in his bid for the U.S. Senate are fair because he is a conservative Republican.
Such attacks against the first black man to win a statewide election in Maryland include pelting him with Oreo cookies during a campaign appearance, calling him an "Uncle Tom" and depicting him as a black-faced minstrel on a liberal Web log.
Operatives for the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee (DSCC) also obtained a copy of his credit report -- the only Republican candidate so targeted.
But black Democrats say there is nothing wrong with "pointing out the obvious."
"There is a difference between pointing out the obvious and calling someone names," said a campaign spokesman for Kweisi Mfume, a Democratic candidate for U.S. Senate and former president of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.
State Sen. Lisa A. Gladden, a black Baltimore Democrat, said she does not expect her party to pull any punches, including racial jabs at Mr. Steele, in the race to replace retiring Democratic U.S. Sen. Paul S. Sarbanes.
"Party trumps race, especially on the national level," she said. "If you are bold enough to run, you have to take whatever the voters are going to give you. It's democracy, perhaps at its worse, but it is democracy."
Delegate Salima Siler Marriott, a black Baltimore Democrat, said Mr. Steele invites comparisons to a slave who loves his cruel master or a cookie that is black on the outside and white inside because his conservative political philosophy is, in her view, anti-black.
"Because he is a conservative, he is different than most public blacks, and he is different than most people in our community," she said. "His politics are not in the best interest of the masses of black people."
During the 2002 campaign, Democratic supporters pelted Mr. Steele with Oreo cookies during a gubernatorial debate at Morgan State University in Baltimore.
In 2001, Senate President Thomas V. Mike Miller Jr. called Mr. Steele an "Uncle Tom," when Mr. Steele headed the state Republican Party. Mr. Miller, Prince George's County Democrat, later apologized for the remark.
"That's not racial. If they call him the "N' word, that's racial," Mrs. Marriott said. "Just because he's black, everything bad you say about him isn't racial."
This week, the News Blog -- a liberal Web log run by Steve Gilliard, a black New Yorker -- removed a doctored photo of Mr. Steele that depicted him as a black-faced minstrel.
However, the blog has kept its headline "Simple Sambo wants to move to the big house." A caption beneath a photo of the lieutenant governor reads: "I's Simple Sambo and I's running for the Big House."
A spokesman for the Maryland Democratic Party denounced the depiction as being "extremely offensive" and having "no place in politics or in any other aspect of public discourse," The Washington Post reported. Democrats have denied any connection to the News Blog.
Still, Mfume spokesman Joseph P. Trippi said Mr. Steele opens himself to such criticism by defending Gov. Robert L. Ehrlich Jr. for holding a Republican fundraiser in July at the all-white Elkridge Club in Baltimore.
"The facts are the facts. Ehrlich went to that country club, and Steele said it didn't bother him," Mr. Trippi said. "I think that says something ... and should be part of this debate."
Several club members told the Baltimore Sun that, though blacks are welcome as guests and there is no policy banning blacks from membership, the club never has had a black member in its 127-year history.
Democrats also have used the club for various events, including Peter O'Malley, brother of and adviser to Baltimore Mayor Martin O'Malley, a Democratic candidate for governor. Peter O'Malley held his wedding reception there in 2003.
State Sen. Verna Jones, Baltimore Democrat and vice chairman of the General Assembly's legislative black caucus, said black Republicans deserve criticism because the Republican Party has not promoted the interests of the black community.
"The public policies supported by Democratic principles are the ones that most impact the African-American community," she said. "I'm not saying [Mr. Steele] is a sell-out. That's not for me to say."
In July, however, Mr. Mfume noted how Republicans were rallying for Mr. Steele but his party had ignored his historic candidacy. "More voters in Maryland are carrying the impression that the Democratic Party talks the talk, but doesn't always walk the walk. People may find a way to cross over in the fall," he said.
Steele campaign spokesman Leonardo Alcivar said state Democrats are afraid of losing the black vote to Mr. Steele.
"That has caused a great tremble throughout the Maryland Democratic Party," he said. "Of course [they are] going to condone racism. It's nothing new, and it's not surprising."
By S.A. Miller
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
November 2, 2005
Black Democratic leaders in Maryland say that racially tinged attacks against Lt. Gov. Michael S. Steele in his bid for the U.S. Senate are fair because he is a conservative Republican.
Such attacks against the first black man to win a statewide election in Maryland include pelting him with Oreo cookies during a campaign appearance, calling him an "Uncle Tom" and depicting him as a black-faced minstrel on a liberal Web log.
Operatives for the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee (DSCC) also obtained a copy of his credit report -- the only Republican candidate so targeted.
But black Democrats say there is nothing wrong with "pointing out the obvious."
"There is a difference between pointing out the obvious and calling someone names," said a campaign spokesman for Kweisi Mfume, a Democratic candidate for U.S. Senate and former president of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.
State Sen. Lisa A. Gladden, a black Baltimore Democrat, said she does not expect her party to pull any punches, including racial jabs at Mr. Steele, in the race to replace retiring Democratic U.S. Sen. Paul S. Sarbanes.
"Party trumps race, especially on the national level," she said. "If you are bold enough to run, you have to take whatever the voters are going to give you. It's democracy, perhaps at its worse, but it is democracy."
Delegate Salima Siler Marriott, a black Baltimore Democrat, said Mr. Steele invites comparisons to a slave who loves his cruel master or a cookie that is black on the outside and white inside because his conservative political philosophy is, in her view, anti-black.
"Because he is a conservative, he is different than most public blacks, and he is different than most people in our community," she said. "His politics are not in the best interest of the masses of black people."
During the 2002 campaign, Democratic supporters pelted Mr. Steele with Oreo cookies during a gubernatorial debate at Morgan State University in Baltimore.
In 2001, Senate President Thomas V. Mike Miller Jr. called Mr. Steele an "Uncle Tom," when Mr. Steele headed the state Republican Party. Mr. Miller, Prince George's County Democrat, later apologized for the remark.
"That's not racial. If they call him the "N' word, that's racial," Mrs. Marriott said. "Just because he's black, everything bad you say about him isn't racial."
This week, the News Blog -- a liberal Web log run by Steve Gilliard, a black New Yorker -- removed a doctored photo of Mr. Steele that depicted him as a black-faced minstrel.
However, the blog has kept its headline "Simple Sambo wants to move to the big house." A caption beneath a photo of the lieutenant governor reads: "I's Simple Sambo and I's running for the Big House."
A spokesman for the Maryland Democratic Party denounced the depiction as being "extremely offensive" and having "no place in politics or in any other aspect of public discourse," The Washington Post reported. Democrats have denied any connection to the News Blog.
Still, Mfume spokesman Joseph P. Trippi said Mr. Steele opens himself to such criticism by defending Gov. Robert L. Ehrlich Jr. for holding a Republican fundraiser in July at the all-white Elkridge Club in Baltimore.
"The facts are the facts. Ehrlich went to that country club, and Steele said it didn't bother him," Mr. Trippi said. "I think that says something ... and should be part of this debate."
Several club members told the Baltimore Sun that, though blacks are welcome as guests and there is no policy banning blacks from membership, the club never has had a black member in its 127-year history.
Democrats also have used the club for various events, including Peter O'Malley, brother of and adviser to Baltimore Mayor Martin O'Malley, a Democratic candidate for governor. Peter O'Malley held his wedding reception there in 2003.
State Sen. Verna Jones, Baltimore Democrat and vice chairman of the General Assembly's legislative black caucus, said black Republicans deserve criticism because the Republican Party has not promoted the interests of the black community.
"The public policies supported by Democratic principles are the ones that most impact the African-American community," she said. "I'm not saying [Mr. Steele] is a sell-out. That's not for me to say."
In July, however, Mr. Mfume noted how Republicans were rallying for Mr. Steele but his party had ignored his historic candidacy. "More voters in Maryland are carrying the impression that the Democratic Party talks the talk, but doesn't always walk the walk. People may find a way to cross over in the fall," he said.
Steele campaign spokesman Leonardo Alcivar said state Democrats are afraid of losing the black vote to Mr. Steele.
"That has caused a great tremble throughout the Maryland Democratic Party," he said. "Of course [they are] going to condone racism. It's nothing new, and it's not surprising."
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Re: Samuel Alito
Every black republican is a target for these racists! Imagne if a republican called Rangle a "Sambo" or the "N" word or threw fried chicken and watermelon at Jesse Jackson at a campaign rally. The media blitz would be utterly frantic!
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Re: Samuel Alito
[quote="southpaw";p="108954"]LP what about the racist statements made by the libs and they get a free pass?[/quote]
Yep, happens all the time. It's the hyprocrisy that drives today's Democratic party. Not sure why you're calling me out on it though.
However, I'm not sure calling Alito "Scalito" is racist. He's being compared to Scalia and I'm ok with that. I am personally not into all the this politically correct garbage - and it's really no different than you or I calling Hillary Hitlary. Well, in a way it is since we're not national political figures. But anyway......
Now, referencing his Italian heritage isn't necessary, but I don't think it harms his chances for confirmation. You are correct though, that if Ginsburg and Breyer's Jewish roots were even mentioned, the media firestorm would have been blazing out of control.
Unfortunately, the only way to get a politician to recant something is to create a media frenzy about it, causing a public uproar. And that ain't a gonna happen if it's a Democrat doing it.
Yep, happens all the time. It's the hyprocrisy that drives today's Democratic party. Not sure why you're calling me out on it though.
However, I'm not sure calling Alito "Scalito" is racist. He's being compared to Scalia and I'm ok with that. I am personally not into all the this politically correct garbage - and it's really no different than you or I calling Hillary Hitlary. Well, in a way it is since we're not national political figures. But anyway......
Now, referencing his Italian heritage isn't necessary, but I don't think it harms his chances for confirmation. You are correct though, that if Ginsburg and Breyer's Jewish roots were even mentioned, the media firestorm would have been blazing out of control.
Unfortunately, the only way to get a politician to recant something is to create a media frenzy about it, causing a public uproar. And that ain't a gonna happen if it's a Democrat doing it.
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Re: Samuel Alito
Despite the best efforts of Kerry, Kennedy and Biden, it looks like this fine judge will be replacing O'Conner on the SC.
So what is everyone's thoughts on the confirmation hearings? Just wondering if anyone can remember when Republicans did something like this to a Democratic nomination to the SC?
Here's a great article by Thomas Sowell about the damage that can be caused by dragging highly qualified individuals through the mud.
http://www.townhall.com/opinion/column/ ... 82481.html
And finally, a question for the liberals and commie's on the board. Did you approve of the way this man was treated during his confirmation hearings? If so why?
So what is everyone's thoughts on the confirmation hearings? Just wondering if anyone can remember when Republicans did something like this to a Democratic nomination to the SC?
Here's a great article by Thomas Sowell about the damage that can be caused by dragging highly qualified individuals through the mud.
http://www.townhall.com/opinion/column/ ... 82481.html
And finally, a question for the liberals and commie's on the board. Did you approve of the way this man was treated during his confirmation hearings? If so why?
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We have the duty to protect the life of an unborn child. - Ronald Reagan
After having lived in MD for three years I can say this: the Democratic party is morbidly affraid of seeing a black Republican win a Senate seat and will do ANYTHING to prevent that from happening.
They are almost as corrupt as their counterparts in West Virginia.
They are almost as corrupt as their counterparts in West Virginia.
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Nice to see that John Kerry called short his trip to Switzerland to come back and along with Drunk Teddy, try and get enough votes for a filibuster. I bet the lovely Teresa really enjoyed not being able to schmooze long with all the left wing Euro-trash.
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