6-1 to 6-6 and no bowl....plus more on PSU-Pitt

[Coach]

Pitt football is not bowling thisyear.

I think we heard the bashing as PSU fans about our down years in the early 2000's.

PSU lost to 3 BCS teams and a team that finished in the Top 5 of the BCS but was shut out of it because of 2 others in the same conference. 3 of those games were on the road (everyone knows those are tough to win against real good teams).

Pitt lost to Uconn, MSU (PSU beat them), Rutgers, WVU, Louisville, and S. Florida.


PSU looks to be a contender in the B10 next year. Morelli and the WRs are back. The OL returns lots of starters. 5th year senior Austin Scott at TB. The offense stunk this year, but... we'll see, I think they are better next year for sure. The D returns Conner, Lee, King, Davis, Scirotto, and some young D lineman and backers who were recruited as some of the best in the nation. We'll see what happens there, but they should be pretty good too. I think next year the Nits host ND, OSU, Wisky, Purdue, and Iowa (nice home schedule...)

Pitt has lots of talent that has been recruited last year and they have nice talent coming in this year too. I'm not so sure though that they will be much better next year in conference than they were this year. Rutgers, WVU, and Louisville all return a lot, and I think USF only gets better.

Pitt's home schedule next year might be the worst I've EVER... I mean EVER seen in my life. I think it will be a tough ticket to sell after this year's debacle to end the year. I know attendance isn't the only thing that matters, but it is a pretty big deal. I've harped on this before, but 110K at around $37 per ticket (avg with student costs), NLC donations, the amount of people that stay in SC on a weekend, etc etc...this is a big money business and I think Pitt will suffer. Anyway, the schedule...blah

Cincy, Syracuse, South Florida, UConn, Grambling, Navy, and Bowling Green.

Honestly, they might average less than 25k per game next year.... Theyy should get some wins there....but


Well anyway, I just wanted to point some things out after PSU fans were ripped on so much the last 2 years about this, that, and the other thing. Pitt may start to win more, but now they have a suddenly deep Big East and they'll be the ones with a ripe, new quarterback next year who will come in with no experience. Not only that...Rut, WVU, Louisville....all on the road next year.

[Head Roadie]

Thanks for Pointing all that out coach. As a Penn State fan, you are, as always absolutely correct, thanks for the information. It appears that Pitt's schedule next year is about as appealing as PSU's was this year.

[Coach]

PSU played Michigan at home this year. The only other appealing one for this year was MSU before they spiraled. Still, that is better than next year's for Pitt. I mean it is just flat out...man I don't know. It honestly might be the worst ever for a D1 BCS conference team at home.

Any thoughts on the rest of the post? I think the Big East will be solid next year, and I'm not sure Pitt will be in the top 3 again next year. I don't think any are so dominate that you can't quickly get up (as Rutgers did this year), but playing the 3 best on the road will be tough.

Really though... that home schedule combined with what happened the last two years has turned into a nightmare for Pitt I think. There is a lot of money that will be lost from it.

[Head Roadie]

Hey, they can't make their conference Home and Away schedule, bottom line. Navy is an attractive game, they have a certain appeal wherever they play and Grambling has a kind of national following also among the I-AA's....probably the most attractive I-AA home game you could get based on mystique, history and tradition with all their players in the Pro's and appeal to the black population (Kind of like ND is to catholics) so to say it's the worst home schedule of all time in I-A is ridiculous and only a PSU fan would even make such a claim.

I think anyone would agree that an advantage in future OOC schedules (other than next fall) if you want to compare PSU and Pitt, which is obviously what your trying to do here, would go to Pitt as was pointed out on here last summer.

[El-Moldo]

Take away that controversial call in the Minnesota game, and have Drew Stanton play vs PSU on Senior Day and Penn State is looking at 6-6. Good thing the Big Ten has certain bowl tie-ins.

[Coach]

You will find more than PSU fans saying that....

What are the best 3 home games next year for Pitt in order. Navy #1? Post a worse home schedule ever for a BCS conference team... You won't find it in the B10, ACC, SEC, B12...

Cincy
Grambling
S. Fla
Navy
UConn
Bowling Green
Syracuse

Just look at that and compare it to any other you have EVER seen.

[The Ancient Enemy]

When an NFL coach takes over a college team, there's an immediate recruiting boost. I wonder how long that boost lasts when you lose 5 games straight to end a season? Sure didn't take Bradley long to talk Sukay into ditching Pitt again.

[El-Moldo]

Why was Sukay wavering in the first place?

[Head Roadie]

I think I found one Coach....it's probably the only I-A schedule that could have ever been worse than Pitt's next year:

It was quite a few years ago:

Kansas State (when they were 7th in the Big 8 and amidst the longest non-Bowl streak in major college football...they wouldn't get to a bowl or out of the Big 8 cellar for 20 years)

Army - finished with a winning record....this was after their glory years that ended in early 60's.

Navy - Only won 2 games this particular year, they were awful

Miami (Fla) - Before Miami of today.....they were 10 years removed from a bowl game, did finish 5-5 but they were relatively new to the big time not even close to where the program, that took off about 1980, is today

Syracuse - Best team on this schools home schedule that year at 7-3 but not ranked.

I'm talking 1968 PSU home schedule. To try and put it into today's perspective:

1968 - Today

Kans. St - Baylor
Army - Navy (although I'm being kind with this one....maybe Air Force would be better)
Navy - Army (probably slightly worse but I'll be kind again)
Miami - Central Florida....they were similar to a mid-pack C-USA team at tht time

Syracuse - S.Florida....a #4 Big East type team


None of these teams on PSU's schedule that year were ranked all year nor did any of them go to a bowl.

I could find lots more over history that are worse if you really want me too...I just thought it would be fun to use your own team!

That Pitt's 2007 Home schedule is the worst ever by any I-A team is absolutely ridiculous, you need to take College Football History 101 !!

[D-nice]

Coach [color=#][/color] you are amongst the biggest violaters in here as far as starting a thread that has nothing to do with anything except for hating Pitt, but you cry when someone takes a stab at mediocre psu. being average in one sport in a whole university program does not make a school great.