FAN CONTROL RULES

[usatf oldguy]

I have now read enough on this whole bailey deal.It's now time to start a new thread on fan control.I personally would like to see a person (paid guard) at each bench for at least the playoffs at these highschool games.Fans are out of control in these situations too.Time to rope this all in.If bailey loses his job over this it is a crime.I have said it before and I'll say it now who here knows what was said to him to cause this reaction? Some *** hole probably said something far worse to him at a time when he wasn't prepared to handle it.He shouldn't have reacted that way and now he is paying the price,but I believe you need more control so you can throw these jerks out who holler obsenities at coaches and players too.

[WPIAL~Titan]

There is fan control, particularly at District and PIAA playoff games. A site manager is assigned, as well as paid staff who are there to monitor the crowd. This includes police officers.

Coaches are role models and must set the example. The coach is the adult in charge and must act as such. In essence, the coach has to rise above the behavior of the fans, and be better than a bunch of HS kids, or even adults throwing taunts at him. I don't care what someone said to Bailey...He shouldn't even be listening to or watching the crowd. He should be worrying about the game and his team.

Sounds like he's been doing this stuff for decades, and finally someone is at least trying to hold him accountable.

It's one thing to drop an occasional profanity in a lockerroom during a team meeting in order to make a point...It's quite another to behave in such a manner in front of the paid crowd, which often includes children.

Another thing that bothers me as much as coaches who embarass themselves...OFFICIALS who have "rabbit ears" with those in the crowd, players, and coaches, and who I feel truly believe that the fans actually come to games to watch them.

[zuneomatic]

I am not denying that this man has done a world of good in his lifetime, but this comes down to this plan and simple fact
--You can't defend the indefensible.

[usatf oldguy]

Sorry I've been to enough of these games and fan control is an issue.Things are said by not only students but adults and very rarely if ever do you see an ejection.I agree coaches should be role models and should act as such.Unfortunately they are humans too and have a breaking point.If some jerk is 2 or 3 rows back hounding you all game he needs to be ejected.A person setting on the end of each bench and behind the huddles during time outs could stop this before it becomes a problem. The bailey that I have seen over the years is more well known for hollering at his own players ala Bob Knight.Not the way I prefer to coach but very effective for him!

[deliverance]

If I was Dave Bailey, I would resign tomorrow. I would not allowed them to fire me or suspend me for a year. He has given everything to Tussey Mountain for years. The world is different today. You can't do the same things anymore. As much as he loves coaching, it's not possible for him to coach anymore in this day and age. Think about it. He has gotten in trouble now. Everyone is going to have their eyes on him in every game for the rest of his career. The smallest of things will be sent to the Tussey Mountain School District, PIAA, and posted on websites like this one. It's a shame that this will probably be how Coach Bailey's career will end, but sometimes that's just how it goes.

[JJDuke]

There was nothing said directly to the TM coach. Fans from both sides were yelling at the refs, things were not going well for his team at that moment and he was not happy with the refs and he ripped of his neck tie while yelling at the refs and suddenly he turned to the crowd with his gesture. Sitting not far behind the game announcer close to the TM bench were D5 and various school officials at that point he sealed his own fait so quit blaming everyone but the person who is responsible for his own actions.

[deliverance]

JJ, please. This game was at UPJ, right? How can you say you heard everything that someone may have said to the man? Don't give me that crap. It's a basketball game and you can't hear what someone says to you more than 10 feet away. Save it for the people that want to hear your side. By the way, I am not saying what Coach Bailey did was right, even if he was provoked. He deserves a suspension of one game.

[usatf oldguy]

Thisis exactly why someone should be on the bench beside the players and the coaches to stop this kinda crap from happening!In this politically correct world we live in I can't believe the PIAA who has a big sportsmanship speech before every sporting event hasn't come up with this on there own. What we can't afford another 80 bucks to have some one sit on the bench and weed out the trouble makers? Let's not pretend that these fans don't get carried away. Look at alot of the previous posts under basketball and you will find many complaints regarding the same thing.

[foghorn]

Every interdistrict playoff game or district championship game I've ever been to always has various district honchos slinking all over the place. They're the ones to control things. The idea of a rent-a-cop doing anything other than escorting people out of the gym, at the behest of the game officials or said honchos, bothers me. Of course, over the years I've been to incendiary games (usually in the WPIAL!!!) where state cops are omnipresent. Since there's an armory in Johnstown, perhaps the National Guard could keep order. Better yet, I know a retired Special Forces/Swat expert who could probably round up enough of his buddies for some pro bono work. Best yet, we could do a take off on an old Archie Bunker episode about preventing airjacking ("Arm the passengers!") and make sure that the game officials are carrying. Maybe then they'd have enough balls to take action against an unruly coach instead of letting it escalate into the tragic and sorrowful situation we have today. Just some suggestions.

[JJDuke]

I wasn't much further then ten feet away and I saw several D5 officials sitting much closer then me and if he was provoked they certainly would have heard whatever you think he may have heard.