Iraqi Election

[The Ancient Enemy]

Also, while I'm thinking about it... 9-11 happened in 2001. It is now the second month of 2005, and the "axis of evil" is ALMOST one third destroyed. Bush is talking about Iran now. I can assure you that Iran will be much more ferocious than Iraq was in defending themselves. So if Bush goes through with this, are we looking at a 2008 "hey I'm out, sorry to leave the mess" kind of deal? Sooner or later you Republicans are going to lose the White House again. Just imagine the accusations and trash talking by the Republicans for the new Nazi homosexual bleeding heart loser President. Just a thought.

[LionPride]

I see you were typing this as I posted my last reply. Please make sure you read it.

Once again, you are comparing apples to oranges. Don't you think the fact that we finally have a President that backs up what he says will be a deterent to Iran? How many times has the United State and the Useless Nations made empty threats in the face of evil? Too often I tell you. If the President is talking about Iran, hopefully they will eliminate their nuclear ambitions before any action is made, because they know this President will back up his words. The last President didn't.

At the rate the Democrats are imploding, I don't see one of 'em getting to be President for a long time to come. Just a thought.

[once a runner]

Is Iraq the only oppressive regime in the world? Is it our duty to go into all these regimes and clean them up? For some reason, I'd think we'd balk a bit before taking on China and their fine record on human rights.

In the 90's Iraq had rid themslelves of nuclear weapons, Iran didn't have any and N. Korea had halted their program. Bush becomes president and calls Iraq, Iran and N. Korea the "axis of evil". He claims Iraq has nuclear weapons and declares war on them. Iran and N. Korea must figure they are next on the list, so they must protect themselves by having nuclear weapons.

Oh yeah, and how many of the 9/11 terrorists were from those 3 countries again?

[The Ancient Enemy]

Yes, LionPride, I'll make sure I go back and read your very excellent post, dad.

You know when enough is enough if people are begging for your help.

Also, aren't Saddam's nukes supposedly in Iran? I would say that Iran is crazier than Iraq. Sooner or later someone will have a nuke and use it. Then, is it going to be worth it when Los Angeles is a wreckage? These people aren't afraid of you, LionPride. They don't care what will happen if after they nuke you. They don't care about blowing themselves up to make a statement.

And as far as the regime being so oppressive and they can't make plans to kill Saddam... come on now. You're arguing this just to argue it. You and I both know they could have done it. Nazi generals tried to kill Hitler, and Iraq was definitely not as intelligent (or as torturous probably) as the Gestapo. People will find a way. And you can't get a gun? There is an army in Iraq, LionPride. It wasn't voluntary. So everyone in the Iraqi army loved Saddam? Open your mind a little bit.

[The Ancient Enemy]

Madeline Albright came here and gave a speech about her career and made it very known that North Korea was working with Clinton and a lot of progress had been made. When Bush took over, all talks stopped. That dictator personally asked Madeline Albright why they quit negotiations with him, and she had no answer for him. Bush made the call, not just accidentally, to stop the negotiations.

[Lemmy]

Sistani's Shia coalition takes commanding poll position
By Patrick Cockburn
05 February 2005


With more than three million votes counted, the United Iraqi Alliance, whose leaders have close ties to Iran, was sweeping ahead of its nearest rival in the poll in Iraq. The Alliance, a largely Shia coalition cobbled together by Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, has won more than two-thirds of the 3.3 million votes counted so far, the election commission said yesterday.

The two most powerful parties in the coalition are the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq (SCIRI) and Dawa, religiously based parties supported by Iran, with whom they were allied during the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq war.

The first votes showed the Alliance was out-polling the slate put forward by Iyad Allawi, the interim Prime Minister, by three votes to one. The Iraqi List, the coalition of Mr Allawi, is so far doing less well than had been expected. He has largely supported the US in its hostility to Iran, complaining that it was interfering in Iraqi affairs. He portrayed himself during the campaign as a tough secular candidate capable of restoring order in Iraq. Mr Allawi's coalition has received 580,000 votes.

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/mid ... ory=607944

[LionPride]

Ah yes, that great foreign policy of Clinton's.

Let a few hundred thousand die in a genocide before you take any action. (Bosnia). Remember Somalia? At the first sign of American casulties, cut and run before the job is done (because it could've been harmful politically)..

Bi-lateral talks with North Korea - yeah that worked like a charm every time it was tried in the past. Without China putting the pressue on them, they won't do a thing and Pres. Bush understands that.

Nothing worse than a liberal full of himself. At least the other liberals on here argue respectfully. You should try to mature a little.

[southpaw]

I guess the thousands of ex-patriots Iraqi's living in the US weren't asking for help? What if the Louis XVI turned a blind eye to Ben Franklin? The Union Jack might very well still be flying on the continent. Your logic just doesn't make any sense at all. All the Germans loved Hitler? They loved Hitler about as much as the Russians loved Stalin. What your forgetting is that fear will make people complacent.

[southpaw]

TAE, man you have a screwed up view of things. You keep watching CNN and drinking the kool-aid.

Albright, I'll bet you thought she was great, huh? I thought you said that N-texas was Very Conservative? How in the world did the let Albright in their to speak. Either they are conservative but let other viewpoint expressed, which is quite possible because conservative are the progressives of the 21st century. Or TAE so blinded by his red passion that anyone to the right of Teddy Hiccup is a facist.

Albright is next to Janet Reno the biggest disaster in Clinton's cabinet. N. Korea working with us. She actually said that with a straight face? Clinton bribed N. Korea with billions to stop making nukes. Guess what? They took our money and kept right on making them and the gutless Albright and Clinton did nothing.

Iran is a very different animal than Iraq. The gov't doesn't have nearly the control over their people as Saddam did. Their is a progressive movement towards secularism in Iran. If you know anything about demograpics in Iran which I doubt you do you would find that the vast majority of Iran's pop. is young and they want more freedom and they look more favorable toward the US than most other muslim country. The Ayotollahs have a tenuous hold in Iran and they are hardliners but most of Irans pop. doesn't support their gov't position.

[The Ancient Enemy]

Hey knucklehead, it's not "ex-patriot", its EXPATRIATE. Lawyer Malloy and Hart Lee Dykes are ex-Patriots. Not the people of Iraq who came to this country.

And I love this "you can't revolt cause they'll kill your family". Is this the same family we're talking about that thinks it's okay, and encourages, suicide bombings that are basically for the heck of it? Weak argument!

Look I may be real sweet, real smart, real arrogant, real smart, a literary mastermind, and a physical monster on the court, in the gym, in the bedroom, and in every day life, but I am not a Communist.

Also, I think they brought in Albright because she worked so long in DC and is famous. There were no political ambitions with bringing her here to speak. She said some nice stuff about Bush, it wasn't a bashing party. I like my Madeline Albright the same way I like my Bill Clinton: I don't care either way. It's not heresy for a Conservative school to have a so-called liberal and "DISASTER" speak at their school. Sorry to rain on your parade, but unfortunately for you, not all Republicans want to tie up and execute everyone who isn't Republican.

Hey we got them on the run, don't stop now.