I am not Liberal. Are you?

[DCPassarelli]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *cough, cough, hack, cough* Damned allergies.
[quote="Pale Rider";p="93618"]How's this for a try then? GW has angered his own party supporters by supposedly caving in to the Dems just to "get along", by letting them have their own way, so to speak, even though God's Own Party is in the majority. He let Teddy "I knew how to swim" Kennedy write the medical health package that in itself is the SINGLE, most expensive item in the entire US BUDGET! If the Congress had spent that much on defense or guarding our borders, we wouldn't have some of the problems we have today. I honestly hope that the Republican majority grows a set and exercises the "nuclear option" as far as ending the threat of filibustering the Bush judicial nominees. It was the Dems that changed the original intent of the Constitution from a 51-49 majority to a 60-40 vote majority needed for approval of appointees. Since it now stands 55-45, the poor Libs don't want to lose again, just as they did AT THE BALLOT BOX. It's pretty pathetic when the Judicial branch can write their own law, instead of interpret what is already there, as was intended by our founding fathers.[/quote]
That is the funniest thing I have read on here so far. So much speculation and hypocritical thinking. Wow. There has been many filibusters done by republicans. The whole better off thing is just funny. Don't you think we would be better off in Eden? Why don't you complain to women that we aren't there now?

[Pale Rider]

If you didn't live in the butthole of Bedford County, Centerville, your allergies may not be so bad. Does Jackie's sell antihistamines? Or do you have to run to the border (Cumberland) to get them too? I think you go to MD. too much, Liberal bastion that it is. We can go round and round about your Liberal slant and my Conservative one, but know this- I've learned more about the politics of the US government in the past 15 years, than you possibly could have since you got out of high school. I know that is the only background you could have, as very few HS kids even give a rat's patootie about politics. Want to know more? Expand your horizons. Read 3 or 4 newspapers a day, listen to (several) different talk shows, talk or listen to people from both sides of the political aisle, not just the Washington Post or New York Times, Mainstream media (CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS), wastes of time and money like the Hollywood left, PAC's like Moveon.org,and do all this from a "neutral" standpoint, for the minimum of a few weeks, then try to make a rational defense of YOUR previous point of view. Go on- I DARE you!

[The Ancient Enemy]

I'd say that stupid high school kid holds up pretty dang well against you old men. In fact, more than pretty dang well.

[CRHSCheerCoach]

[font=Tahoma]100% LIBERAL!!![/font]

[DCPassarelli]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. That was amazing. You actually managed to top your last post. I dare say am not the average High School Student. Just ask any of my classmates. 11th man knows. As does Bedrock (though he is a teacher, not a classmate). Pale Rider, believe me, I am not liberal. On some things I may be considered Liberal, but I am Conservative on about the same amount. Also, you know nothing of my background. Not everyone was like you in high school, which you probably took those observations from. Most of the news I get is from the internet, which I look up from hearing of things by word of mouth. The media spews crap from every orifice. Except one. There is one channel on the radio I can listen to without getting sick. NPR.

*DCPassarelli waits for comments about NPR being liberal*

The reason I can stand to listen is because they talk about everything. A while ago they talked about the the King Tut treasures returning to America, and they played "King Tut" right after. It was awesome. Another time they talked about the new Florida Orange Juice Ad Campaign.

Oh, and Maryland isn't that bad. At least every other person doesn't drive a truck.

Also, I daresay Centerville isn't the worst part of Bedford. Play a bit of Jeopardy? The category is, "Towns in Bedford County that end in 'yndman'."

dang it's late, and I have to go to church in the morning.

[fleaflicker]

Lemme guess Pale Rider. The only news channel that isn't a waste of your precious time is the Fox News channel.

Liberal doesn't mean any of that. Here's one of the main differences, and the one that I am subject to. Liberals, as you would call them, care more about individual people, making sure that they have their rights, and making sure that the right thing is done for them, if indeed they do need anything done. This would be stuff such as saving the environment, supporting homosexuals, and raising minimum wage. Conservatives support businesses, and also are Bible beaters. This is why they are often against environmental policies, a higher minimum wage, and homosexuals.

And that is not a nice try I made. It is, in fact, true. It took a liberal mind in those times to support a woman's right to vote, or a black man's right to equality. Liberals are often the supporters of new an innovative ideas, whereas Conservatives go by the status quo.

Annother thing of note is that while this 60-40 thing for stopping filibusters and appointing judges is beneficial to Dems now, later on it will probably benefit conservatives. The 60-40 plurality for stopping filibusters should be left as is. Why? It keeps both sides in check. It prevents a majority of 51 from doing whatever they want with appointees (such as the super conservative ones that Bush has appointed) and legislation and whatever. Whether those 51 be Democrats or Republicans. And in my mind, anything that holds up big government is better in my mind.

By the way, here's something interesting to note. Bush offered 40 million to Brazil, with the condition that they talk about abstinence before marriage as the ONLY way to prevent diseases, and stop supporting use of condoms. Brazil has supported awareness of STDs and condoms for years, and as a result, their rate of STDs have gone down. By doing this, they would undo any progress they have made in that area. As you can imagine, Brazil was smart enough to decline the offer.

[LionPride]

[quote="fleaflicker";p="93651"] Liberal doesn't mean any of that. Here's one of the main differences, and the one that I am subject to. Liberals, as you would call them, care more about individual people, making sure that they have their rights, and making sure that the right thing is done for them, if indeed they do need anything done. This would be stuff such as saving the environment, supporting homosexuals, and raising minimum wage. Conservatives support businesses, and also are Bible beaters. This is why they are often against environmental policies, a higher minimum wage, and homosexuals. [/quote]

You forgot to mention one thing about Liberals. They may SAY they care about all the above, but they beat that drum with NO VISION for the future.

BTW - wasn't Lincoln a Republican? Been a while since I took a history class :roll: .

And I believe that things like affirmative action were needed at one time. Now, affirmative action is racists, plain and simple. By believing in affirmative action, you're telling minorities they aren't good enough to get a job on their own. That's hogwash.

[once a runner]

I suspect that if I had been alive in 1860 I would have been a Republican as well. It was a relatively new party at the time with new ideas. Ideas that aren't necessarily held true by the Republican party we know today. Their platform at their convention called for 3 main points:

1) the perpetuation of the party. Well, since they were new, that was kind of important.

2) "The maintenance of the rights of the states, especially their right to order and control their own domestic institutions according to their own judgment."........ Well we're certainly losing that. One or two states allow gay marriage and now the federl gov't has to step in. We have a crappy law in No Child Left Behind being run from the federal level instead of letting states and local districts decide on how to best educate children.

3) Assurance that "no person should be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law," and no legislature or anyone else give legal existence to slavery in any territory to the United States...... I guess the Patriot Act took care of that one.

Up until the last 20-30 years, the south was hugely Democratic The Northeast almost always backed the Republican candidate for president up until the time of Kennedy. So what changed? Did the people of those areas change beliefs? Or did the parties change beliefs?

Yeah, I think I would have been a Republican in the 1860's too.

[Pale Rider]

Bravo to those last 2 posts. I could not have said it nearly as well.

DCP- TAE- others that think as you do- Until you have been married, had a family or others to support( with a job, not Government handouts), owned property, paid taxes, take your minds off of self, there is no hope for you. You think you have the world by the agates just because you are who you are. I really want to apologize about Centerville, though. It isn't the rear orifice, just the armpit. At least MOST of the inhabitants have teeth. If they are all related, ....oh well. It doesn't matter what LionPride, southpaw, El Moldo, or others like myself have to say to you, WE are wrong and YOU are right! Or should I say "LEFT"? It would be real interesting to put your current words and thought processes into a time capsule, bury it for 25-30 years, have you dig it up and look back on what you said and thought at the time. I would almost GUARANTEE that you will feel differently about most, if not all, the old stuff.

We can always agree to disagree, can't we. I heard a story this morning that is appropriate.

It seems that in a small town somewhere in eastern Tennessee, (true story), there were two small churches in this town, one Methodist, one Baptist. The preacher of the Baptist church was always preaching AGAINST the other church, and it was vice-versa for the Methodist. One day, a terrible storm dumped so much water over the valley, a flash flood occurred. The Baptist preacher was holding on for dear life to his wife and kids when he lost his grip on his very young daughter, and she was swept into the torrent. Not far away, the Methodist preacher, seeing what was about to happen, dove for the little girl. He got to her, and kept her above water until he was able to give her back to her Dad, just as a bigger torrent swept him to his doom. His body was recovered many days later miles downstream. The Methodist church was never rebuilt. To this day, there is only ONE church in this town, aptly renamed the "Sweet Harmony" Church. Truly amazing what trials can do to individuals and groups of opposite-minded people. Live long and prosper.

[southpaw]

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