Single A football

[youngbuck]

2012: Clairton (District 7)
2011: Clairton (District 7)
2010: Clairton (District 7)
2009: Clairton (District 7)
2008: Steelton-Highspire (District 3)
2007: Steelton-Highspire (District 3)
2006: Southern Columbia (District 4)
2005: Southern Columbia (District 4)
2004: Southern Columbia (District 4)
2003: Southern Columbia (District 4)
2002: Southern Columbia (District 4)
2001: Rochester (District 7)
2000: Rochester (District 7)


here are the winners since 2000, does not seem like there are any catholic schools on the list.
does anyone want to argue that if a certain team would not have been beated by a catholic school in a certain year that that team would have beaten any of these teams?

none of us like to pay income tax, but that is the law and we all live with it. The PIAA does not make private schools play up, so complaining about recruiting is not going to change that either.

(did not seem to be many allegations of recruiting toward BM this year. or at BC last year) or ever at BG,
how many applicants did BC have for there head coach job two years ago
answer-- very few, that is interesting because the thought process on this board is that it is super easy to win at a private school. why would every body have been lining up for that job.

[12HankQB]

The big debate is mostly locally among the schools in our area. I said in a post today that no matter public or private we all lose outside our districts 5&6, but in D6 A it is ruled by the privates and bellwood. That is what I have been saying. D5 gets killed every year by D7 straight up

[konjo78]

When it comes to high school football Its usually the same teams winning every year. Coaching is the #1 difference in high school football, good coaches lead to titles. Talent only gets you so far

[Coach]

Look at the talent that Clairton and Steel High and Southern Columbia has had.

Talent...not coaching in single A. You can have 2 absolute studs and win games.

For real, look at the division 1 and 2 athletes from these three programs in the last decade and it is ridiculous.

[PApride]

Coaching has nothing to do in A football esp if u have 2-3 D1 kids on the team they can carry the whole team...ppl keep saying about privates not winning A state titles, well good luck when u got studs goin D1 looks like North Catholic is gonna b D7 champ this year ;)

[hornets69]

When it comes to high school football Its usually the same teams winning every year. Coaching is the #1 difference in high school football, good coaches lead to titles. Talent only gets you so far

you just lost more of your credibility. it wouldn't matter if ken salem was coaching at rockwood or ferndale. he would not win against whichever catholic school had the most talent that particular year. he would have maybe 1 or 2 good athletes if he was lucky while mccort/carrol/guilfoyle whichever team is having their good season. would have 4 or 5 as good, and another 5 just a step lower.

look at the demographics which was pointed out in another post. your beloved school penns manor, with 100 kids for enrollment purposed. the kids on drugs from Clymer, the poor or lazy folks that get government assistant, the kids with parents that were dope heads growing up working a minimum wage job and don't care about their kids and can't read and write themselves, etc. make up a chunk of the enrollment numbers.

look at the demographics of private school. their parents went to private school in many instances. they have money and can afford to pay the $6000 a year tuition. or a kid from Westmont decides he wants to play for a winner his senior year. oh yea, i forgot to add that if you can't afford it but are good at sports you can get if a lift scholarship. bad at sports/bad grades/poor appearance, sorry, the private school don't have to admit you because they are private. parents can afford to send their kids to camps and stuff probably more so than the bulk of the parents at a public school.

[12HankQB]

When it comes to high school football Its usually the same teams winning every year. Coaching is the #1 difference in high school football, good coaches lead to titles. Talent only gets you so far

you just lost more of your credibility. it wouldn't matter if ken salem was coaching at rockwood or ferndale. he would not win against whichever catholic school had the most talent that particular year. he would have maybe 1 or 2 good athletes if he was lucky while mccort/carrol/guilfoyle whichever team is having their good season. would have 4 or 5 as good, and another 5 just a step lower.

look at the demographics which was pointed out in another post. your beloved school penns manor, with 100 kids for enrollment purposed. the kids on drugs from Clymer, the poor or lazy folks that get government assistant, the kids with parents that were dope heads growing up working a minimum wage job and don't care about their kids and can't read and write themselves, etc. make up a chunk of the enrollment numbers.

look at the demographics of private school. their parents went to private school in many instances. they have money and can afford to pay the $6000 a year tuition. or a kid from Westmont decides he wants to play for a winner his senior year. oh yea, i forgot to add that if you can't afford it but are good at sports you can get if a lift scholarship. bad at sports/bad grades/poor appearance, sorry, the private school don't have to admit you because they are private. parents can afford to send their kids to camps and stuff probably more so than the bulk of the parents at a public school.

I was getting at this earlier, just didn't know how to put it nicely

[animus]

It's a combination of both. Clairton always had 1-3 kids a year going to BCS level schools. Granted Boyd may be the best player to ever play at Clairton, but the success of Clairton hasn't been an accident. Nola took over in 03 and the stock of the team went up ever since. I think the greatest contributor was Tim Bukowski insisting on going to the spread offense to put our athletes into space. Before Clairton was mostly an I-Formation Option team. Now we do spread option to passing the rock a quarter to a third of the time. Monessen has always had their fair share of D1A prospects as well. I don't think Nola and Bukowski can achieve the same success at a Portage or Windber but ok at best coaches aren't just going to create state level teams, just because there are 1-2 great players on the squad. Talent needs coached the same way coaches need talent.

[QuoteTheRaven]

It's a combination of both. Clairton always had 1-3 kids a year going to BCS level schools. Granted Boyd may be the best player to ever play at Clairton, but the success of Clairton hasn't been an accident. Nola took over in 03 and the stock of the team went up ever since. I think the greatest contributor was Tim Bukowski insisting on going to the spread offense to put our athletes into space. Before Clairton was mostly an I-Formation Option team. Now we do spread option to passing the rock a quarter to a third of the time. Monessen has always had their fair share of D1A prospects as well. I don't think Nola and Bukowski can achieve the same success at a Portage or Windber but ok at best coaches aren't just going to create state level teams, just because there are 1-2 great players on the squad. Talent needs coached the same way coaches need talent.

Perectly stated. Football is the ULTIMATE "TEAM" sport, meaning PLAYERS and COACHES.

[SevenTwo]

It's a combination of both. Clairton always had 1-3 kids a year going to BCS level schools. Granted Boyd may be the best player to ever play at Clairton, but the success of Clairton hasn't been an accident. Nola took over in 03 and the stock of the team went up ever since. I think the greatest contributor was Tim Bukowski insisting on going to the spread offense to put our athletes into space. Before Clairton was mostly an I-Formation Option team. Now we do spread option to passing the rock a quarter to a third of the time. Monessen has always had their fair share of D1A prospects as well. I don't think Nola and Bukowski can achieve the same success at a Portage or Windber but ok at best coaches aren't just going to create state level teams, just because there are 1-2 great players on the squad. Talent needs coached the same way coaches need talent.

Very well said, animus.